Android Graal

Deas_Voice · #1 11-24-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis20014

Any update on ththe android version. Nearly a year since Stefan said it would originally be released

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Originally Posted by Stefan

It's coming closer to release

It's working but we have to find the good business model / payment methods.

What type of server are we going to get?

Discuss.

Geno · #2 11-25-2010, 12:42 AM

you will have whatever server iphone will have.

6 months after.

:]

ffcmike · #3 11-25-2010, 12:45 AM

My personal preference would be a server maybe similar to if not based on Graal Classic.

Cubical · #4 11-25-2010, 12:46 AM

I want to play with iPhone players

I don't see why iPhone and android wouldn't be able to interact.

Zeke_iPhoneGP · #5 11-25-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubical

I want to play with iPhone players

I don't see why iPhone and android wouldn't be able to interact.

Stefan said he needed to find a payment method for android for gralats and packs, because the iPhones and iPods use iTunes for the purchases.

Birdo13 · #6 11-25-2010, 12:52 AM

Graal 2001 Android....

i would die.

Cubical · #7 11-25-2010, 12:58 AM

Android has a marketplace, maybe offer an in game option to buy gelats from a mobile website? Google isn't anal about their marketplace like Apple is.

Clockwork · #8 11-25-2010, 08:54 AM

willing to bet it's the same thing as iphone server

fowlplay4 · #9 11-25-2010, 09:03 AM

Why would it get a different server...

Linux/Mac Graal Clients don't get different servers than Windows.

Deas_Voice · #10 11-25-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Why would it get a different server...

Linux/Mac Graal Clients don't get different servers than Windows.

because the iphone servers are optimized for the iphone hardware(??),
android phones has a larger variation of hardware the the iphone so they have to adapt to that.

Cubical · #11 11-25-2010, 11:09 PM

The iPhone client is optimized for iPhones not the scripts themselves. I was just implying that with like an extra 1500 players that they might split it into two servers to lessen the servers workload.

fowlplay4 · #12 11-25-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

because the iphone servers are optimized for the iphone hardware(??),
android phones has a larger variation of hardware the the iphone so they have to adapt to that.

iPhones/iPods/iPads have that same range of hardware as well.

This is all it comes down to:

PHP Code:


			
if (getplatform() == "android") {

  // get these scripts

  // or do this instead

}

else if (getplatform() == "iphone") {

  // get these scripts

  // or do this instead

}

This doesn't mean they have to add a new 'Android Classic' server just modifications to the scripts.

Admins · #13 11-25-2010, 11:33 PM

Well it's more than that, the sounds are a big a problem on Android (especially pre-2.2) and graphics also behave differently. The speed should normally not be a problem, the game is also working on older iPods and iPhones and we will require a minimum of Android 2.1, so that slow phones like G1 are not supported.

Cubical · #14 11-25-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Well it's more than that, the sounds are a big a problem on Android (especially pre-2.2) and graphics also behave differently. The speed should normally not be a problem, the game is also working on older iPods and iPhones and we will require a minimum of Android 2.1, so that slow phones like G1 are not supported.

Although I have a G1 that's totally understandable, software evolves as hardware. That's just like saying 'Sorry little Pentium MMX, but windows 7 can't run on you nor do we have any plans to support you.'

As it stands right now, even the lowest end Android phones that are coming out should be enough or even more than enough to run Graal. You also have to look at the statistics comparing Android and iOS. By Q2 of next year Android will have sold more phones than the iPhone has. I know this doesn't take into account all the iPod touches and iPads but there is already Android Tablets and Music players in the works but just imagine what will be available Q4 of next year.

Pretty much all I'm saying is the faster it gets out the more exposure it will get and you want to get maximum exposure as Android will inevitably be the leading mobile operating system in the world and not just on phones.

edit: Google is skynet

Deas_Voice · #15 11-26-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Well it's more than that, the sounds are a big a problem on Android (especially pre-2.2) and graphics also behave differently. The speed should normally not be a problem, the game is also working on older iPods and iPhones and we will require a minimum of Android 2.1, so that slow phones like G1 are not supported.

how is the sound and graphics a problem?
i would also want to know if your planning to group us with the iphone players or not.'

i'd be happy to test if u need, i got an 2.2 android w/ keyboard & touch (yeah, that's right. keyboard.

).

CharlieM · #16 11-26-2010, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubical

As it stands right now, even the lowest end Android phones that are coming out should be enough or even more than enough to run Graal. You also have to look at the statistics comparing Android and iOS. By Q2 of next year Android will have sold more phones than the iPhone has. I know this doesn't take into account all the iPod touches and iPads but there is already Android Tablets and Music players in the works but just imagine what will be available Q4 of next year.

Pretty much all I'm saying is the faster it gets out the more exposure it will get and you want to get maximum exposure as Android will inevitably be the leading mobile operating system in the world and not just on phones.

edit: Google is skynet

dont wanna be a naysayer, but Speculation is almost always wrong, you generally have a better chance of going against speculation then with it, especially with technology

Deas_Voice · #17 12-01-2010, 10:52 PM

any progress?
can't wait until it's released

DustyPorViva · #18 12-01-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubical

The iPhone client is optimized for iPhones not the scripts themselves. I was just implying that with like an extra 1500 players that they might split it into two servers to lessen the servers workload.

The scripts ARE optimized for iPhone graal though. There's practically no clientside looping allowed.

Skyld · #19 12-01-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

how is the sound and graphics a problem?

The OpenGL ES stuff varies between different manufacturers it seems, and also the sound stuff is missing some functionality on Android 2.1 which makes it difficult to implement properly (although it has been sorted in 2.2).

Bubble13 · #20 12-02-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Well it's more than that, the sounds are a big a problem on Android (especially pre-2.2) and graphics also behave differently. The speed should normally not be a problem, the game is also working on older iPods and iPhones and we will require a minimum of Android 2.1, so that slow phones like G1 are not supported.

Uh, I wouldn't call it working. My iPod second generation can't take the lag of Graal City without crashing, and it takes a while to start up.

LordSquirt · #21 12-02-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

Uh, I wouldn't call it working. My iPod second generation can't take the lag of Graal City without crashing, and it takes a while to start up.

Do you disable nicknames? It works fine for mine

Deas_Voice · #22 12-13-2010, 07:11 PM

bump, can't wait...

12171217 · #23 12-13-2010, 11:48 PM

Stefan, if you want a performance gain on your iPhone clients, batch multiple heads/bodies into the same texture, just different UV coords, in your loading routine, then sort by texture when rendering. Much less texture uploads is much faster.

Bubble13 · #24 12-14-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt

Do you disable nicknames? It works fine for mine

I have everything disabled that can be disabled, and it still lags and crashes. Every update just makes it worse.

Deas_Voice · #25 12-14-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 12171217

Stefan, if you want a performance gain on your iPhone clients, batch multiple heads/bodies into the same texture, just different UV coords, in your loading routine, then sort by texture when rendering. Much less texture uploads is much faster.

ey, this is the android graal thread, get lost

Zeross · #26 12-23-2010, 07:41 AM

When will it be released? I have the HTC Evo and I think its ready to run graal.

Matt · #27 12-23-2010, 07:56 AM

Any Android ran phone is ready to run Graal.

dennis20014 · #28 12-24-2010, 02:58 AM

Lol why doesn't anyone have a target release date or estimated than at least?

I emailed a ton of people and only a few said soon or they didn't even know.

One said the near future but failed to respond to any more emails

You'd think with Era Iphone out now they would co release the original Classic on android or w/e lol

Zeross · #29 12-25-2010, 03:57 AM

So, back to the question. When will it be released for Android?!!!

MattKan · #30 12-25-2010, 04:28 AM

If Graal for the Android is released, would Android players log into the same servers as iPhone players?

fowlplay4 · #31 12-25-2010, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

If Graal for the Android is released, would Android players log into the same servers as iPhone players?

yes.

Matt · #32 12-25-2010, 06:38 AM

I bet the current iPhone players can't wait for more lag !

Fulg0reSama · #33 12-25-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I bet the current iPhone players can't wait for more lag !

As the android stomps everyone else except for the staff PC players.

Whoever doubts what I stated than Q_Q more noob since the Android is technically better and the iPhone is full of ****.

Matt · #34 12-25-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

As the android stomps everyone else except for the staff PC players.

I'd have to agree. My T-Mobile G1 is godly to me compared to these iPhones lol.

Deas_Voice · #35 12-25-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

yes.

do you know that for a fact?
cus i would say no

Deas_Voice · #36 12-25-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I'd have to agree. My android is godly to me compared to these iPhones lol.

rep+, but i gotta spread

Zeross · #37 12-25-2010, 07:36 PM

Yeah, Android does seem to be superior in many ways.
The EVO which is combined with 4G network is insane.

CharlieM · #38 12-25-2010, 07:42 PM

The only thing I hate about Androids is every single Android I've looked at feels cheap and flimsy

Deas_Voice · #39 12-25-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM

The only thing I hate about Androids is every single Android I've looked at feels cheap and flimsy

including the newest HTC's? those sure aint cheap, nor "flimsy"

fowlplay4 · #40 12-25-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

do you know that for a fact?
cus i would say no

The scripts (GUI) on the iOS server can be altered to support Android as well.

Mac/Linux/PC don't have different servers and they co-exist just fine don't they? I don't see why the Android and iOS devices can't either. The clients would just end up using the same scripts anyway.