GK's current state (formerly 'gk')

Crow · #1 07-28-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Do you think that will change anything to at better or to more interested players?

Putting it into the classic tab would definitely get some more players interested, but there is a lot more that needs to be changed on GK.

Sam · #2 07-28-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Putting it into the classic tab would definitely get some more players interested, but there is a lot more that needs to be changed on GK.

Putting it on classic get more payers and better gelat market.

Your editing is incorrect. I was talking about the fact that some known people use GK as platform to sell items for real money.

Stephen · #3 07-31-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Putting it on classic get more payers and better gelat market.

Graal Online is dying - there are fewer players in total.

If the minimal game "Graal Classic: The Adventure" can sell like hotcakes on the iPhone then why can't it make the cut on the PC client?

Graal Online needs to be fixed first. Someone as hateful as yourself should be able to understand something so simple. Ghost Pirate Amulet.

kia345 · #4 07-31-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

If the minimal game "Graal Classic: The Adventure" can sell like hotcakes on the iPhone then why can't it make the cut on the PC client?

Because all of the content on Graal is developed by the players. If Graal's iPhone version existed as just development tools, ask people to pay to use them and then make their own content to play on, they wouldn't have a massive playercount either.

Graal needs quality dedicated/gold/official servers to set the bar for everyone else.

Stephen · #5 07-31-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Because all of the content on Graal is developed by the players. If Graal's iPhone version existed as just development tools, ask people to pay to use them and then make their own content to play on, they wouldn't have a massive playercount either.

Graal needs quality dedicated/gold/official servers to set the bar for everyone else.

I'm happy you agree with me - Graal Online needs some serious revisions.

Waltz5 · #6 08-03-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nullify

With GK in it's current state, I wouldn't even pay monthly classic fees for it. Hell, I can't even stand playing it as a trial.

So I was browsing my iPhone and saw Graal had an app... then logged in here. And yes, I agree there is no way I'd pay to play GK as it is right now.

I asked someone to tell me updates in the past 3 years (time since I logged in)... there were able to tell me in about 10 minutes (seriously).

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I'm happy you agree with me - Graal Online needs some serious revisions.

Hi.

nullify · #7 08-03-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5

there were able to tell me in about 10 minutes.

More like seconds.

MajinDragon · #8 07-31-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Graal needs quality dedicated/gold/official servers to set the bar for everyone else.

You'd think this would be their business model from the start though...

kia345 · #9 07-31-2010, 03:57 PM

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You'd think this would be their business model from the start though...

When you start out free, the bar is phenomenally low. When you add a price tag, you should up the quality to justify it.

They skipped that step.

Fulg0reSama · #10 07-31-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

They skipped that step.

They skipped a ****load of steps.

MajinDragon · #11 07-31-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

When you start out free, the bar is phenomenally low. When you add a price tag, you should up the quality to justify it.

They skipped that step.

Indeed.

Tigairius · #12 07-28-2010, 09:08 PM

Not going to make it classic. Not changing management. Not resetting it.

Not discussing any of the above because it's already been discussed to death.

However, we do have plans for improvement and hopefully these will be ready in the near future. I agree, it's really in a sad state right now. I do not want to close this thread, but I can already see where it is going.

Please keep this discussion constructive.

Sam · #13 07-28-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

However, we do have plans for improvement and hopefully these will be ready in the near future. I agree, it's really in a sad state right now.

Didn't you post something similar a few month ago?

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I agree, it's really in a sad state right now.

So I'd like to know what happens to the money people payed for a working game. Will they get a free month playing or something? There is barely supporting staff online (at last in the european timezone) if you have any problems.
Maybe you can tell us what improvements will come and when?

cyan3 · #14 07-28-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

There is barely supporting staff online (at last in the european timezone)

I myself try to be online to help people within the European timezone as an FAQ, however recently it has barely been possible with the playercount being so low with only 5 - 10 players are online and sometimes even less.

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

GK players love aesthetics so that - house upgrade scrolls - could definitely work. I could never support usd'd experience. Could also make new hair styles and clothes gelat items only. If it was cool enough, heck I'd buy some clothes and hair.

Would be nice to have at least something in the graal shop for Graal Kingdoms.

BigBear3 · #15 07-28-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

So I'd like to know what happens to the money people payed for a working game. Will they get a free month playing or something? There is barely supporting staff online (at last in the european timezone) if you have any problems.
Maybe you can tell us what improvements will come and when?

I help many people per day. I'm sorry I'm not on when you are Sam. Do you need help?

Take your miserable posts elsewhere.

kia345 · #16 07-28-2010, 11:03 PM

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I help many people per day. I'm sorry I'm not on when you are Sam. Do you need help?

Take your miserable posts elsewhere.

No one's blaming you Pat! It's just a shame that our beloved staff-kingdom leader-duo can't exist now, **** got done.

poop3131 · #17 07-30-2010, 04:49 PM

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staff-kingdom leader-duo

That's because Pat is all that by himself!

xXziroXx · #18 07-29-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Not changing management.

I personally think you did a great job when you were just promoted, but there haven't been anything done of value for months and months again. I'm positive GK would benefit a lot more by having a Manager who's not a global and can spend 100% of their time on making GK a better place, and I don't think you can commit to that anymore.

Tigairius · #19 07-29-2010, 07:35 PM

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I personally think you did a great job when you were just promoted, but there haven't been anything done of value for months and months again. I'm positive GK would benefit a lot more by having a Manager who's not a global and can spend 100% of their time on making GK a better place, and I don't think you can commit to that anymore.

Find a nice manager who really cares about GK and commit the same amount of time, effort, and development force that I can give (or more) and they can have it. Good luck, let me know when you find him or her. Until then, I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Also, to be honest, I don't think you really know enough about the unseen things I do on Graal Kingdoms to comment on whether or not some other manager would make the place better.

I can either keep doing what I'm doing: giving when I can and trying my best... or I can simply leave and focus my efforts on other things and you guys can have no updates at all. There's really no other choice at this point, complaining won't really take GK anywhere at this point. I do what I can and that's all I can do.

This has really turned into a stupid thread as I already imagined it would. Simply a recreation of the many other threads reiterating the same points over and over again.

The saddest part is, it's not as if I don't feel for the players of GK - the ones who actually care about it, not the ones who just pop into these threads to troll and get their two cents in. I'm tired of defending myself to the community for things that are practically out of my control. I take responsibility as manager, yes, but we are trying the best we can with what we have got and we always have been.

xXziroXx · #20 07-29-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

the unseen things

No kidding?

Tigairius · #21 07-29-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

No kidding?

You're hilarious. We're all laughing.

Clockwork · #22 07-29-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

...or I can simply leave and focus my efforts on other things and you guys can have no updates at all...

You did sorta leave in a way, devoting time you could be using towards GK to become a pwa, and you understand they we are seeing no updates at all anyways? Sure there's a fix or so when something is broken that changes the repetition of gk's current state.

I know you're a great scripter and all but when it you don't see any large updates for a year or more, I wonder how much time you can/do devote to GK.