GK's current state (formerly 'gk')
 

it peaks at 15 players a day, something needs to be done. GK was actually playable and decent when it came out, and now its sooo sad to even look at. Make it classic, have a reset. Peace.

Do you think that will change anything to at better or to more interested players?

Make it classic and change management.

Yeah make Stephen manager.

Putting it into the classic tab would definitely get some more players interested, but there is a lot more that needs to be changed on GK.

How would that help any? D:

Putting it on classic get more payers and better gelat market.

Your editing is incorrect. I was talking about the fact that some known people use GK as platform to sell items for real money.

Could make it Classic and put certain items in the graal shop. Nothing too good such as weapons or armour but maybe exp increases and house upgrade scrolls which will still generate some sort of in-come from Graal Kingdoms making it a priority for improvement.

Wouldn't say no to making it Classic. It's certainly not worth the title of 'Gold'.
As for a new manager. No.

GK players love aesthetics so that - house upgrade scrolls - could definitely work. I could never support usd'd experience. Could also make new hair styles and clothes gelat items only. If it was cool enough, heck I'd buy some clothes and hair.

Not going to make it classic. Not changing management. Not resetting it.

Not discussing any of the above because it's already been discussed to death.

However, we do have plans for improvement and hopefully these will be ready in the near future. I agree, it's really in a sad state right now. I do not want to close this thread, but I can already see where it is going.

Please keep this discussion constructive.

Didn't you post something similar a few month ago?

So I'd like to know what happens to the money people payed for a working game. Will they get a free month playing or something? There is barely supporting staff online (at last in the european timezone) if you have any problems.
Maybe you can tell us what improvements will come and when?

I myself try to be online to help people within the European timezone as an FAQ, however recently it has barely been possible with the playercount being so low with only 5 - 10 players are online and sometimes even less.


Would be nice to have at least something in the graal shop for Graal Kingdoms.

I highly doubt anything that is coming out (omg quarterly update) would make GK worthy of the title of "gold".

The problem GK is that it has been broken / needing improvements for a really long time (even before Tig was Manager) making the job of improvement much much harder, plus GK doesn't really have a stable development team.

I help many people per day. I'm sorry I'm not on when you are Sam. Do you need help?

Take your miserable posts elsewhere.

No one's blaming you Pat! It's just a shame that our beloved staff-kingdom leader-duo can't exist now, **** got done.

I don't blame all of GK's problems on management. I blame Stefan on not letting management have full developmental control.

This.

When the holidays come, they will swarm.

Holy hell, I could get an ice shield and ice sword. I can't wait to add to my stacks.

doesn't change the fact they swarm.

I personally think you did a great job when you were just promoted, but there haven't been anything done of value for months and months again. I'm positive GK would benefit a lot more by having a Manager who's not a global and can spend 100% of their time on making GK a better place, and I don't think you can commit to that anymore.

You used the "quarterly" updates as minor bug fixes. Bugs should be remedied as they come up, not used in lieu of actual additions to the game

theres a lot of problems when it comes to quality updates but thats due to manpower, the will to get **** done, irl, and the fact that the majority of worthwhile developers are now busy

what matters the most is accepting where you stand and letting the people you work with know. for example i let people know im incredibly slow and procrastinate but eventually get things done~

Find a nice manager who really cares about GK and commit the same amount of time, effort, and development force that I can give (or more) and they can have it. Good luck, let me know when you find him or her. Until then, I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Also, to be honest, I don't think you really know enough about the unseen things I do on Graal Kingdoms to comment on whether or not some other manager would make the place better.

I can either keep doing what I'm doing: giving when I can and trying my best... or I can simply leave and focus my efforts on other things and you guys can have no updates at all. There's really no other choice at this point, complaining won't really take GK anywhere at this point. I do what I can and that's all I can do.

This has really turned into a stupid thread as I already imagined it would. Simply a recreation of the many other threads reiterating the same points over and over again.

The saddest part is, it's not as if I don't feel for the players of GK - the ones who actually care about it, not the ones who just pop into these threads to troll and get their two cents in. I'm tired of defending myself to the community for things that are practically out of my control. I take responsibility as manager, yes, but we are trying the best we can with what we have got and we always have been.

No kidding? >_<

You're hilarious. We're all laughing.

A good way to make your playercount think you're actually doing something is by telling them you're actually doing something, it's always nice to see a weekly update, no matter how minor it is.

It's hard to feel like there's been actual change when you see things like outdated links in the login server pm (Quarter 3 2009 Update News), and because of that threads like these get created.

I'm not sure what your problem is. We're suggesting change because to us, nothing seems to happen, and you not telling us anything is the only reason behind that. I was never being disrespectful against you, and you have to realize that unless you actually tells us about things, we can't know about them - and that only makes you look bad.

It is not my job to tell you guys everything we have planned because I want it to be a surprise when we finally complete it. It also makes it difficult for developers because we cannot actually promise anything we would like to do due to lack of help. I would rather be vague and say "we're working on things" than to promise something that I'm not going to be able to deliver.

You know as well as I do that development on Graal is slow, rocky, and unreliable and I firmly disagree with releasing unfinished ideas for content.

You did sorta leave in a way, devoting time you could be using towards GK to become a pwa, and you understand they we are seeing no updates at all anyways? Sure there's a fix or so when something is broken that changes the repetition of gk's current state.

I know you're a great scripter and all but when it you don't see any large updates for a year or more, I wonder how much time you can/do devote to GK.

Tig, you are spreading yourself too thin. Period.
A manager should be 100% dedicated to the server they are "in charge" of.

he did say he was going on a break, and he did say he was only partially back.

As ideal as that sounds, you can't honestly expect someone to be 100% dedicated when Manager of GK doesn't pay the bills or help with future credentials at all.

That's because Pat is all that by himself!

It takes 2 to be a duo.

is that a fat joke null

Graal Online is dying - there are fewer players in total.

If the minimal game "Graal Classic: The Adventure" can sell like hotcakes on the iPhone then why can't it make the cut on the PC client?

Graal Online needs to be fixed first. Someone as hateful as yourself should be able to understand something so simple. Ghost Pirate Amulet.

Because all of the content on Graal is developed by the players. If Graal's iPhone version existed as just development tools, ask people to pay to use them and then make their own content to play on, they wouldn't have a massive playercount either.

Graal needs quality dedicated/gold/official servers to set the bar for everyone else.

I'm happy you agree with me - Graal Online needs some serious revisions.