Gangs & Gang Points

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by iRedemption

I sure hope you don't talk like that irl, it's really annoying to read. You're wrong too. Points have been competitive lately with the help of this update.

Let me break it down for you.

Originally:
Points > 0 (Always)
You die (-2 points)
You kill (+2 points)

If: death> kills = 0 points.
If: deaths = kills

So, if you have a 100 point lead, and we raid you (for every time we kill you, your lead is shortened by 4 points. (-2 for death, +2 for kill) And increased by 4 if you kill us. (+4 and -4 which is a 1/1 ratio) (If broken down)

Now
Points>0 (Always I assume)
You die (-0 Points)
You kill (+1 Points)
If death>kills = 0 Points
If deaths = kills (0 Points)

So if, you have a 100 point lead, and we raid you for every time we kill you, your lead is shortened by 1 and you kill us its increased by 1. (A 1/1 ratio).

So tell me, what the hell has changed? The numbers have been broken down, but everything remains you dimwit.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Stuff

You are correct in an ideal raid. But then you need to account for those who log off or run away without dying.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

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Consider this situation using both point methods:

1. Gang A and Gang B both start out with 0 points.
2. Gang A earns 100 points, Gang B is slacking and earns nothing.
   • Old method:
     - Gang A has 100 points
     - Gang B remains at 0 (as far as I remember, points didn't go in the negative)
   • New method:
     - Gang A has 100 points
     - Gang B remains at 0
3. Later that night, Gang B earns 100 points, Gang A doesn't earn anything.
   • Old method:
     - Gang A loses 100 points, and is now at 0.
     - Gang B has 100 points
   • New method:
     - Gang A keeps its 100 points
     - Gang B now has 100 points
4. Final Score:
   • Old method (Gang B wins):
     - Gang A - 0, Gang B - 100
   • New method (Tie):
     - Gang A - 100, Gang B - 100

So let's think about this for a minute...how the **** is that fair? Both gangs earned a total of 100 points, and yet Gang A loses? With the new method it was a tie (how it should have been).

If points did go in the negative, then you're right, nothing changed. But players would much rather see 100 and 100 over 0 and 0 -- everyone wants recognition for the points they earn and 0 is hardly doing justice to both gangs' activity. A lot of players didn't like the old method, and that's why they suggested it should be changed.

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by salesman

stupid

In the old method:
If Gang B Gains a 100 Points, Gang A would NOT necessarily lose all its points, unless Gang B gained its 100 points from KILLING Gang A.
Only way Gang A suffers a loss, is if it LOSES a raid.

In the new method, Gang A still suffers a loss, if it loses a raid.

Therefore, only thing that's changed is people don't notice or "feel" that loss because the points don't drop.

In any event, this method is more like training wheels or newbie protection, I guess. Seeing as if Gang B beats Gang A for a 100 points, they'd simply be tied. In other words, Gang A suffers nothing for losing (the hell?).

If that's the change they wanted (not sure why), they got it. Then again, you still lose your 0 point lead, just don't fall a 100 points behind in the process (lol).

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

ignorant

Did you even read my post?

[Old_Days]

Everyone in this thread is wrong.

What needs to happen is this: 1 Gang kills everyone

Blam