Petition to bring back the old playerworld system

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

And what if the developers just want to play around with scripts and make something cool?

Great reason why offline development tools should never have been forsaken.

[Immolate]

Originally Posted by Crono

Great reason why offline development tools should never have been forsaken.

This.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Crono

Great reason why offline development tools should never have been forsaken.

Not really. There is no NPC-server offline, so they will always be pretty useless for scripters.

I'm all for offline tools of course, but there's no reason to add unnecessary features like GS2 for the level editor.

[DarkReaper0]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Not really. There is no NPC-server offline, so they will always be pretty useless for scripters.

I'm all for offline tools of course, but there's no reason to add unnecessary features like GS2 for the level editor.

Wait wait wait wait wait, did you REALLY just say offline GS2 is unnecessary?


What reasoning possibly supports this?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by DarkReaper0

Wait wait wait wait wait, did you REALLY just say offline GS2 is unnecessary?


What reasoning possibly supports this?

The reasoning that it requires an unrealistic amount of effort compared to the more reasonable demands for having a goddamn level editor on Linux at some point this decade. Also that Stefan apparently does not want to have npc server components on the clientside for the fear that people are going to duct-tape them to 1.39 gservers or something.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Loriel

The reasoning that it requires an unrealistic amount of effort compared to the more reasonable demands for having a goddamn level editor on Linux at some point this decade.

You're giving him another 10 years?

Originally Posted by comet

TestBed server

Testbed is not the answer for everything. Sooner or later, it will get too cluttered, if it already hasn't yet. I know that I can barely navigate through things.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Testbed is not the answer for everything. Sooner or later, it will get too cluttered, if it already hasn't yet. I know that I can barely navigate through things.

So then another one or two should be made.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I'm all for offline tools of course, but there's no reason to add unnecessary features like GS2 for the level editor.

You're out of touch with reality, dude.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by DarkReaper0

Wait wait wait wait wait, did you REALLY just say offline GS2 is unnecessary?

Yes, and I've said it before.

There is no use for GS2 offline in a world which is always online. The level editor doesn't even need "play" functionality. It's used for placing tiles and scripts and levels. We have the Testbed server for a reason.

And, to be honest, you shouldn't really be placing scripts in levels. Classes are king.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Yes, and I've said it before.

There is no use for GS2 offline in a world which is always online. The level editor doesn't even need "play" functionality. It's used for placing tiles and scripts and levels. We have the Testbed server for a reason.

And, to be honest, you shouldn't really be placing scripts in levels. Classes are king.

You obviously never played around with the editor and made little offline worlds for/with yourself and friends, did you?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

You obviously never played around with the editor and made little offline words for/with yourself and friends, did you?

Sure I did. I remember making spirally explosions and playing around with staff boots with the offline baddies, etc.

That doesn't mean we need offline support for GS2, though.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Sure I did. I remember making spirally explosions and playing around with staff boots with the offline baddies, etc.

That doesn't mean we need offline support for GS2, though.

Why shouldn't we have offline support for GS2? It shouldn't be necessary to use testbed to learn GS2.