Playerworld Previews

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Why exactly is it named "Preview: xxxx"? It would look so much better if you made another "tab".

I think you already know the reason behind this. There is no such thing as a "Preview" tab, and how long would we have to wait before such a thing could be arranged, keeping in mind that when we change a server from one medium to another, it is all in a server name change?

EG: When we change the name of a UC server, we have to make sure the new name we enter is preceded by the letter U, such as U Era Dev. People will only see Era Dev, but the U holds significance.

So then you'd have to wait for say Stefan to alter the global command, the Login stuff and so forth.

That is why it is just appended with "Preview".

Originally Posted by Vima

This is a great idea!! I really appreciate that Bell is trying to help the Graal Community, constantly comming up with new ideas :]

Why not make the text in bold?
Like:
Preview : Maloria and a diffrent icon?

Again, you'd need Stefan to control this function of display on the Login server. But for Bolding of certain servers doesn't seem worth the effort. They're still pretty definitively distinguishable.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Whats the point of this if Classic Accounts can't help.

The point is already described clearly, please read carefully. It's not aimed at Classic accounts, Gold accounts, or any account at all. It's directly aimed at Developers. Now, to be a developer (IE: Have RC on ANY server), you would already have a Gold subscription as Gold is required to use RC. That is why there'd be no sense at aiming it at the status of one's subscription.

The player side of it is just for peek's. Go in, check around, see if you like it, log off, come back at a later time or date and peek at what's been done in the time you've been away, and see if there's been progress made (Which would indicate that they succeeded in finding new, motivated development staff whilst being on Preview).

Originally Posted by Spark910

This is a nice idea

Although I've not paid too much attention these past years:
1) Why are there no other servers on the hosted list?
2) What is observer mode?

1) A few places were unable to keep up with their subscription, such as AEON whose owner had to move around IRL a bit. Once their subscription is renewed, they should reappear.

Originally Posted by Jimbo33

When is this gonna happen? I would like to apply but I don't have enough content yet, but I have a solid built and I know my server could make it big, but just not NOW.

I will have to discuss that with Bell. Originally, I was going to be doing this while Bell was away over the weekend but as the bulk of you know, the forums broke/went down from around Friday night. Upon her return, whether she noticed the recent problems and the "Forums Repaired" thread or not, she went ahead and made this thread to get things on the roll.

Since it's out there already though, I figure it'd be safe to say that it's pretty much underway and we'll make an official announcement to call for applications very shortly.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

The point is already described clearly, please read carefully. It's not aimed at Classic accounts, Gold accounts, or any account at all. It's directly aimed at Developers. Now, to be a developer (IE: Have RC on ANY server), you would already have a Gold subscription as Gold is required to use RC. That is why there'd be no sense at aiming it at the status of one's subscription.

that isn't even a reason, that's just saying "we're just not going to aim at account status for the sake of not doing so, because developers will OBVIOUSLY have gold"

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Hiro

that isn't even a reason, that's just saying "we're just not going to aim at account status for the sake of not doing so, because developers will OBVIOUSLY have gold"

My response was to MysticX2X about why Classic accounts can't help. Maybe this will be a more suitable response though:

The point of this idea does not surround the debate being put forward to Stefan about Classic accounts not being able to use RC. The point of this idea is to attract the attention of Developers interested in working on some of these UC servers that just need a little bit of professional and quality-style help. We cannot change Stefan's mind about "Classic accounts and RC", that is totally up to him, but we as the PWA can at least give some servers a fair go at making their way toward the Hosted tab by allowing them the opportunity to attract these quality developers.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

My response was to MysticX2X about why Classic accounts can't help. Maybe this will be a more suitable response though:

The point of this idea does not surround the debate being put forward to Stefan about Classic accounts not being able to use RC. The point of this idea is to attract the attention of Developers interested in working on some of these UC servers that just need a little bit of professional and quality-style help. We cannot change Stefan's mind about "Classic accounts and RC", that is totally up to him, but we as the PWA can at least give some servers a fair go at making their way toward the Hosted tab by allowing them the opportunity to attract these quality developers.

while true, it still doesn't change what i posted

also, it's vague just how developed these servers have to be. does it have to have material content to show off or just the bare bones of development with everything planned out only lacking developers?

for example, if you have a generated OW, with little to no detail on the map, and you need LATs, does this count as a valid reason to be on the preview list? or what if you need multiple staff positions filled for various things, and you only have one thing to show off - it's hard to show people what's involved with the server by a preview alone in that sort of position

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

The point is already described clearly, please read carefully. It's not aimed at Classic accounts, Gold accounts, or any account at all. It's directly aimed at Developers. Now, to be a developer (IE: Have RC on ANY server), you would already have a Gold subscription as Gold is required to use RC. That is why there'd be no sense at aiming it at the status of one's subscription.

No, I know your guys reasoning. I Just don't see any true point behind this. Most developers are aware of potential UC servers, it's having to buy gold that is the problem that servers can't finish.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

No, I know your guys reasoning. I Just don't see any true point behind this. Most developers are aware of potential UC servers, it's having to buy gold that is the problem that servers can't finish.

This is where your information is not exactly correct. We are all asked by developers what type of server [insert servername here] is. We believe that by doing this, it will not only encourage server renters to try to improve the quality of their servers to beat out the other guy for better staff. But will also give give interested developers something to actually look at and decide for themselves if they feel said server is something they would like to participate in.

As far as the accounts status goes. This is not the thread for that. That is a separate issue that has nothing to do with the PWA and what we are trying to achieve here. You are not the first to complain nor will you be the last. We cannot immediately affect that change and its a battle we've not yet chosen to fight. Random rants about it will do nothing to cause change. It usually has the opposite affect and does little more than label you as a troublemaker. Another time, another place, just not here and now.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Bell

This is where your information is not exactly correct. We are all asked by developers what type of server [insert servername here] is. We believe that by doing this, it will not only encourage server renters to try to improve the quality of their servers to beat out the other guy for better staff. But will also give give interested developers something to actually look at and decide for themselves if they feel said server is something they would like to participate in.

As far as the accounts status goes. This is not the thread for that. That is a separate issue that has nothing to do with the PWA and what we are trying to achieve here. You are not the first to complain nor will you be the last. We cannot immediately affect that change and its a battle we've not yet chosen to fight. Random rants about it will do nothing to cause change. It usually has the opposite affect and does little more than label you as a troublemaker. Another time, another place, just not here and now.

and that's why nothing ever gets done, people with power positions such as yourself having either indifferent or nonparticipating opinions about player-important problems within the game. do you not see that if you guys spoke up as we do, that a lot more would get done, instead of nothing getting done?

also my question still stands from the former post and pertains to how exactly we go about explaining a server's description in terms of how much development has been achieved

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I think you already know the reason behind this. There is no such thing as a "Preview" tab, and how long would we have to wait before such a thing could be arranged, keeping in mind that when we change a server from one medium to another, it is all in a server name change?

Then make one, It would be better having a Tab for it.. This way people see it faster and it would help better

[Bell]

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Then make one, It would be better having a Tab for it.. This way people see it faster and it would help better

I believe TSA addressed this already. We cannot make one and chose to not wait until Stefan could find the time to make one. Its not exactly a high priority. Preview: takes 2 seconds, tabs can take weeks.

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Originally Posted by Bell

I believe TSA addressed this already. We cannot make one and chose to not wait until Stefan could find the time to make one. Its not exactly a high priority. Preview: takes 2 seconds, tabs can take weeks.

I don't want to be mean, But why wait for Stefan? Can't you do it yourself..? ;o

I mean, You are the PWA Admin and i think you should be able to do these things yourself.. ;p

[Bell]

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

I don't want to be mean, But why wait for Stefan? Can't you do it yourself..? ;o

I mean, You are the PWA Admin and i think you should be able to do these things yourself.. ;p

You give me too much credit, its not within my rights and abilities.