Testing Server

[Chompy]

I would like to see you guys often go through 800+ wnpcs and 200+ classes looking for code that breaks the rules. Also going through all the localnpc/localitem textfiles in npcs/ to delete npcs taking/clogging up memory/cpu. Sometime ago I had to delete over 100-1000 staff blocks on almost a daily basis (It's much better now though).

So I understand why Tig don't want to advertise it. More people that want to use the testbed as a playground instead of a learning experience for their abusive scripts/era guns, requires more resources on cleaning up etc, which could of been used somewhere else.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Chompy

I would like to see you guys often go through 800+ wnpcs and 200+ classes looking for code that breaks the rules. Also going through all the localnpc/localitem textfiles in npcs/ to delete npcs taking/clogging up memory/cpu. Sometime ago I had to delete over 100-1000 staff blocks on almost a daily basis (It's much better now though).

So I understand why Tig don't want to advertise it. More people that want to use the testbed as a playground instead of a learning experience for their abusive scripts/era guns, requires more resources on cleaning up etc, which could of been used somewhere else.

If you had to delete abusive scripts on a daily basis for any extended period that really indicates a lack of management, unless of course you're granting access to dozens of people per day (which I'm sure is not the case).

Secondly, people can't proclaim how much they're trying to 'help the community by making the testbed server available' and then out the other side of their mouth saying 'oh but I don't make people aware of it because it's too much of a task to follow through'. It's one or the other. Have proper moderation of the server or simply shut it down until it's possible to do so.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by Cloven

If you had to delete abusive scripts on a daily basis for any extended period that really indicates a lack of management, unless of course you're granting access to dozens of people per day (which I'm sure is not the case).

Indicates a lack of management? There are around 300 different account names with RC access on Testbed and we can't be online at all time. The reason was players made staff tools like staff blocks, gave it to dosens of people, where they went crazy placing blocks all around. There's also many people adding 10+ guns themselves using ganises/images from Era on there, then they give out the script to everyone since everyone wants to play around with Era guns.. (most have been deleted though). The whole 'staff block case' is better now though..

Originally Posted by Cloven

Secondly, people can't proclaim how much they're trying to 'help the community by making the testbed server available' and then out the other side of their mouth saying 'oh but I don't make people aware of it because it's too much of a task to follow through'. It's one or the other. Have proper moderation of the server or simply shut it down until it's possible to do so.

Well, finding people willing and skilled enough to moderate on Testbed is an other case.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Chompy

Indicates a lack of management? There are around 300 different account names with RC access on Testbed and we can't be online at all time. The reason was players made staff tools like staff blocks, gave it to dosens of people, where they went crazy placing blocks all around. There's also many people adding 10+ guns themselves using ganises/images from Era on there, then they give out the script to everyone since everyone wants to play around with Era guns.. (most have been deleted though). The whole 'staff block case' is better now though..

Glad to hear that it's better now, and I'm sure that was annoying previously. That doesn't really change the fact that ridiculousness like that should've been expected and prepared for from the get-go (sadly it's something that needs pre-prep). I at least hope you guys were quick to remove access from people who upload stolen and/or worthless things.

Originally Posted by Chompy

Well, finding people willing and skilled enough to moderate on Testbed is an other case.

No argument there, but the lack thereof still points to a lack of preparedness going back to the inception of the testbed server. I suppose as long as the unwanted are/were weeded out things should be more positive in the the long run. Perhaps you'll be lucky and will end up not needing a larger amount of moderation in the future and this can eventually be a non-issue.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Cloven

Secondly, people can't proclaim how much they're trying to 'help the community by making the testbed server available' and then out the other side of their mouth saying 'oh but I don't make people aware of it because it's too much of a task to follow through'. It's one or the other. Have proper moderation of the server or simply shut it down until it's possible to do so.

I don't really see how shutting it down is any more productive than leaving it around "without proper moderation." At least while it's here, "without proper moderation," people still have a chance to learn from it.

I do agree with the other people though, stating that there should be more instructors. I can add Mallard when I am able to access RC again, and also maybe a few others, but it's difficult choosing because most are not very active or they just idle.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I don't really see how shutting it down is any more productive than leaving it around "without proper moderation." At least while it's here, "without proper moderation," people still have a chance to learn from it.

I do agree with the other people though, stating that there should be more instructors. I can add Mallard when I am able to access RC again, and also maybe a few others, but it's difficult choosing because most are not very active or they just idle.

I just meant that it should be shut down if it was in fact going nowhere, or nobody with administrative rights is able to log on and perform necessary duties (since it would in essence defeat the purpose of having the server at that point).

And yeah, way too many inactives/idlers.