"Borrowing" Items

[salesman]

As far as a lending system goes, it's not going to happen with our current item system. Right now, once a player logs off, the only way to remove items from them is via RC. We cannot remove items from an offline player by script, which obviously would cause problems with a lending system. I know there a ways around it, but they would be very sloppy and not worth the trouble/risks. Players should to stick to the lending rules for now.

In regards to scamming in general, yes, we will reverse a scam if we can prove that one did occur -- that will not change. In order to ensure complete safety of your items, you should use always use the trade window, and contact a GP before lending. If someone is being impatient and insists on lending without a GP present, it is most-likely a scam.

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by salesman

As far as a lending system goes, it's not going to happen with our current item system. Right now, once a player logs off, the only way to remove items from them is via RC. We cannot remove items from an offline player by script, which obviously would cause problems with a lending system. I know there a ways around it, but they would be very sloppy and not worth the trouble/risks. Players should to stick to the lending rules for now.

In regards to scamming in general, yes, we will reverse a scam if we can prove that one did occur -- that will not change. In order to ensure complete safety of your items, you should use always use the trade window, and contact a GP before lending. If someone is being impatient and insists on lending without a GP present, it is most-likely a scam.

WTF how the **** are items saved? oO

[Stryke]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

WTF how the **** are items saved? oO

clientr vars. lol

[sam_is_me]

You can't change those in a script?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by screen_name

Anything can be done with GScript!!! Anyways, sure it could be in a couple of ways;

1. Have tradeable weapons join a lending class
2. timestamp the trade, check timestamp against lending length which could be defined by the lender
3. when time is up, return the item to the lender, delete it from the lendee
4. have various checks to eliminate exploiting the system
>> automatically give the lender the item when time is up and remove from lendee (if lendee remains online)
>> if the lendee goes offline (isn't there an event if someone disconnects?) then delete the item when they connect again
>> have a DBNPC that controls this instead of weapon scripts (best way?)
>> lendee can not drop, trade, or sell lended item
5. other related stuff (perhaps a "renting" fee)

Era's sytems are a mess right now; such a thing would not be possible.

Originally Posted by sam_is_me

You can't change those in a script?

Not when the player is offline. The only solution is the remove on login, but like Sales said, that's messy and prone to break.

[HarlemBalla]

Even if it is not possible to return the item when someone logs off, something as simple as a check box where players agree that they are just borrowing would help out a lot. Reason being, if someone is scammed by letting someone borrow their items there is no way for the GP to decipher if they were actually borrowing items. With a borrow agreement check box the GP can go back and easily check if that was the case. Something like this would rid of all these lending scams.

If this is not possible to do or is seen as unnecessary than I do advise that any player involved in a lending trade run a video logger of any conversation you have with someone leading up to your trade and the trade itself.

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Stryke

clientr vars. lol

I'm pretty sure they're also all in a SQL-DB. I hope it atleast

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

I'm pretty sure they're also all in a SQL-DB. I hope it atleast

As you well know, they aren't. It would be virtually impossible to adapt the current system to SQL, which was released months ago. On Dev, SQL is used to store items, however.