"Borrowing" Items

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Hey, being a GP isn't so easy unless you have rules to follow for every case. This helps make decisions alot easier.

Dude all GPs did was:

"I'll talk to Squirt about it"

[Spikedude]

Originally Posted by Pelikano

Dude all GPs did was:

"I'll talk to Squirt about it"

And all you've ever done is whine. Even?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Hey, being a GP isn't so easy unless you have rules to follow for every case. This helps make decisions alot easier.

making decisions as a GP is pretty much common sense. there's nothing hard about it if there were no guidelines to follow.

[Lime_O_Matic]

Originally Posted by Frankie

making decisions as a GP is pretty much common sense. there's nothing hard about it if there were no guidelines to follow.

Well, not according to the people who made the current rules on Era. If you have no guideline, it will cause people to favor players they like though. So simple guidelines must be put in effect, no matter what.

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Well, not according to the people who made the current rules on Era. If you have no guideline, it will cause people to favor players they like though. So simple guidelines must be put in effect, no matter what.

Not really.

If you used common sense all of the time, you'd realize that as a select member of a team supposed to provide unbiased justice to the playerbase - favoring someone wouldn't be the right thing to do.

If you need a guideline telling you not to show favoritism to friends and people you want to get something from, you shouldn't be a GP in the first place.

[Scary_Sock]

Oh god, Pelikano.

[Scary_Sock]

Well, I still was confused with this situation that happend with McGyver, Danny Fiery, and Reckman. I won't go into details, but Reckman borrowed McGyver's P2k's that were supposed to be "Danny's", but Reckman also let McGyver borrow his ump. I don't know what happend furthermore, but McGyver got banned, and Reck said "It was a trade" since the logs showed it trading weapons.

Especially how rules say that if you can't wait for a GP, and you let the person borrow your item with no GP (PR) watching, its your fault unless you have proof that he scammed you. It is really easy give fake images. Anyone can edit images ad make them do things that didn't happen. I doubt anyone would take a video of the trade, since they either don't want to download anything, or it takes to long, etc.., and they scam the person. It is stupid.

[Spikedude]

Guys, this thread isn't about calling out our GPs.

The reason we need formal rules isn't as much a judgement decision on the GPs, but on the players. It's easier to deal with people who are angry about not being able to scam their items than it is to deal with the number of players who say "I WAS LETTING HIM BORROW MY GUN AND BLAHBLAHBLAH." This way, they just always have a GP watch, nobody complains, if someone is still too stupid then they have no excuse.

I've never been one for illegal scamming, but that's just the way it is right now. No need to twist around people's words and call them out over the forums.

Vin, you should propose that idea to Sales, maybe in a Era Community ticket thing.

[CharlieM]

Xen your not evevn close they were mcguvers reck asked to borrow it stole them prettty much and since the PR team is mentally disabled Squirt with his IQ of 9000 had to fix it so Mcgyver got his p2ks back and reck got an UMP no one got banned

[Scary_Sock]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Xen your not evevn close they were mcguvers reck asked to borrow it stole them prettty much and since the PR team is mentally disabled Squirt with his IQ of 9000 had to fix it so Mcgyver got his p2ks back and reck got an UMP no one got banned

McGyver got banned. Even Reck said so himself. But, I'll take your word on this.

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[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by Scary_Sock

McGyver got banned. Even Reck said so himself. But, I'll take your word on this.

[/nosarcasm]

McGyver never got banned..McGyver didn't do anything wrong, Reck is the one who tried to scam someone

[salesman]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

It's 7 PRs including me. In actuality that number is pretty low compared to the player count of Era.

If anyone is interested in knowing what that count is, in the last 2 weeks:

2084 unique accounts have logged on
815 of those have more than 100 hours
977 were trials


We've also had ~300 support tickets to deal with since its release (~2 weeks).

[Mark Sir Link]

I'm actually surprised there are even rules regarding lending since most other games would leave the risk entirely to the player for lending items out instead of selling them

[Sinkler]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I'm actually surprised there are even rules regarding lending since most other games would leave the risk entirely to the player for lending items out instead of selling them

The reason is because Staff do not condone scamming. It's not needed and unethical. We enforce safety in whatever you do AS LONG AS A PR IS WATCHING! It's not hard to follow the rules.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

The reason is because Staff do not condone scamming. It's not needed and unethical. We enforce safety in whatever you do AS LONG AS A PR IS WATCHING! It's not hard to follow the rules.

I don't see what scamming has to do with lending.

If you're not sure if you can trust someone you probably shouldn't let them borrow it. Like I said, no other game I am aware of would go through such trouble, and if this is how it's going to work you might as well just develop a lending system rather than have it individually monitored