Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

loyally? where has your loyalty been for the past 5 or more years?

well lets see, I quit for 3 of those 5 and I didnt really FULLY stop playing classic until like 2005. so from 2000-2005 I was loyal and even tried to put up with the hit detection change.

why would i waste my time with a server that wasnt going anywhere?

[DarkCloud_PK]

Thanks for speaking for me, but the main point I've been saying is that a mere HD switch to default is not going to magically save classic. It won't bring any players here, I could turn off the HD we have now for a week and it would be just as dead as it is now.

Don't believe me? I could have it done, but I know the result already, so what's the point.

A default HD wont mask all the other, larger problems that classic faces.
Not to mention you keep forgetting the aspect of community and what a vital role that plays in a successful server.

Let me remind you again, let's go back 5 years, a couple months before the npc server switch, the HD was DEFAULT, the levels were the GTA levels.

What was the player count?
30.
UN was at 200+.

Clearly it's the HD that is the problem, even though it didn't solve anything 5 years ago.

and as for contego blaming storm for starting the whole mess with custom systems and HD. it isn't his fault, it was forced on him to make everything serverside in the sake of security, so Graal Classic wouldn't be the trainer infested zone it was before. If you want to direct your blame on the custom systems of classic being created, divert your blame to stefan, he was the one that made that call.

Edit: Let me dumb down my point in one simple sentence.
Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

[unknown]

we dont have to believe you, test and see the results you *****.

[Remonq]

Originally Posted by unknown

why would i waste my time with a server that wasnt going anywhere?

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

[contego]

Originally Posted by Remonq

loyally? where has your loyalty been for the past 5 or more years?

I have been back consistently since '05. I started in '99 and I left the community in late '03 and returned in '05 to present.

The gap was life distractions such as loss of loved ones, moving, etc. Thanks for the concern.

Forums tend to lose focus of the topic or issue at hand which is why I spend little time the past 10 years posting on them.

You're truly misinformed, please don't make false presumptions about me.

[Remonq]

and you are misinformed if you think that changing the HD will MAGICALLY save the server

[contego]

Originally Posted by Remonq

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

We didn't jump ship, we were inactive for a short time like everyone becomes.

You will probably disappear for a couple years and return one day. Doesn't mean you "jumped ship".

However when we returned, the game we once knew it's HD was drastically changed. I couldn't stay interested. But I did stay with Graal just on a server more like Classic's original HD.

[contego]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Thanks for speaking for me, but the main point I've been saying is that a mere HD switch to default is not going to magically save classic. It won't bring any players here, I could turn off the HD we have now for a week and it would be just as dead as it is now.

Don't believe me? I could have it done, but I know the result already, so what's the point.

A default HD wont mask all the other, larger problems that classic faces.
Not to mention you keep forgetting the aspect of community and what a vital role that plays in a successful server.

Let me remind you again, let's go back 5 years, a couple months before the npc server switch, the HD was DEFAULT, the levels were the GTA levels.

What was the player count?
30.
UN was at 200+.

Clearly it's the HD that is the problem, even though it didn't solve anything 5 years ago.

and as for contego blaming storm for starting the whole mess with custom systems and HD. it isn't his fault, it was forced on him to make everything serverside in the sake of security, so Graal Classic wouldn't be the trainer infested zone it was before. If you want to direct your blame on the custom systems of classic being created, divert your blame to stefan, he was the one that made that call.

Edit: Let me dumb down my point in one simple sentence.
Classic was dying long before default HD was removed.

You're right it was dying.
But rather than improve what players wanted such as events and more things to attract the kinds of players you had there; You develop a new HD and a Trading Card Game????? WTF?

[Remonq]

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

[contego]

Originally Posted by Remonq

and you are misinformed if you think that changing the HD will MAGICALLY save the server

AGAIN someone who DOES not READ what I said. This is a start, this is why it isn't maintaining it's current playercount. I did NOT say it will magically bring back anything.

Look at the poll results. It's what the players want.

This is a start, then development continues to move on from there but in a better direction.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

help how? I suggested just like a lot of old players did and storm didnt listen. I dont script or do anything of that nature so theres no point in trying to hold me to that, nice try.

[contego]

Originally Posted by Remonq

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

No, but what is scary is you reproducing.

[Remonq]

whatever, like i said you guys are going about this all wrong and this will get you nowhere. you need to try another approach

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

great you lived with it.

know what the jews did in WW2? they lived with what was happening, and they died for it.

sometimes you cant just stand by buddy.

I just sparred on the HD, and its like sparring a lagger. plus when you get hit the image is super annoying and ruins momentum. Throws me off anyway.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Remonq

whatever, like i said you guys are going about this all wrong and this will get you nowhere. you need to try another approach

another approach?
when contego is talking about establishing a team and giving his services, you think thats a bad approach? hes putting his money where his mouth is, go read previous posts.