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View Poll Results: Classic Server should..?
be left as it is. 4 6.15%
bring back it's original levels and hit detection. 51 78.46%
bring back ONLY the original levels but leave the hit detection as is. 1 1.54%
bring back ONLY the original hit detection but leave the levels as is. 9 13.85%
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:49 PM
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i agree at 50% with contego however,the main problem is not the hd , the problem is ...there nothing fun to do at all except bowling, card game sux and bowling is ok .about the hd there this new exodus arena coming up, its has two different hd spar and pk room. default and clientside.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:53 PM
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I agree with contego, I am sick of going back and forth with you 2. It's like you like bickering with us. Please, for the sake of classic, post something that actually has something to really do with this thread.
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lol laura, come on now, you can do better than that.

your insults are repetitive and not even good.
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Hey contego, just remember that if you have any questions, you can ask Debbie Downer, I mean Laura, shes a FAQ!

after replying a post that wasnt directly throwed at you , your saying im the one bickering you?
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Laura, I am sorry but you are the only person who likes the current hit detection. If you feel thats wrong, feel free to go on classic and give people this thread to vote on.

If we could just get an OK to try to jump start classic, we could start discussing what needs to be done and all.

I am sure contego can establish an awesome team to add to classics current team.
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after replying a post that wasnt directly throwed at you , your saying im the one bickering you?
I was just stating the facts since you quoted him and then said "where did I say his name"

plus I am going to stick up for him since hes my friend and actually wants to do some real good for this game even though he doesn't have to.

Besides, I wasn't arguing with anyone until you and Rufus came along.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:58 PM
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i agree at 50% with contego however,the main problem is not the hd , the problem is ...there nothing fun to do at all except bowling, card game sux and bowling is ok .about the hd there this new exodus arena coming up, its has two different hd spar and pk room. default and clientside.
Thank you Laura, but in all fairness 3 say the current HD is fine and 48 others are having an issue with the current HD.

Doesn't majority rule?
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Thank you Laura, but in all fairness 3 say the current HD is fine and 48 others are having an issue with the current HD.

Doesn't majority rule?
We shouldn't even count the leave it as is people, seeing as its probably dev staff who don't want to do the work :P but everyones entitled to their opinion...though majority rules.
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i agree at 50% with contego however,the main problem is not the hd , the problem is ...there nothing fun to do at all except bowling, card game sux and bowling is ok .about the hd there this new exodus arena coming up, its has two different hd spar and pk room. default and clientside.
No. No not really at all.

I quit Classic because the Hit Detection SUCKS. Whoever scripted that should be hung upside-down for a week.

If the Hit Detection weren't so horrible, I would definitely log on and PK/Spar.

But it does. And that's why 50 some people voted that it Sucks as well. I'm pretty sure they didn't vote for the wrong thing.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:10 PM
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HD sucks and kills a lot of aspects of Classic, thus it should be top priority. Of course, its going to take a lot of work to change.

And now I'm going to complete switch gears with the next post. Enjoy.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:13 PM
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The fact remains that a bunch of people who do not play current classic have all of a sudden appeared and tried to push for drastic changes. How effective such changes would be remains to be seen, but let's try to put this in context.

A bunch of nostalgic oldbies see our server in its dismal state and see an opportunity to reclaim what was lost. They don't give a damn about the people who spent the past several years dedicated to a so-so server. They don't give a damn about what has been worked on in the past because, to them, nothing will ever be good enough compared to old classic.

It's obvious to everyone who's played or visited current classic that things are not looking good. But restoring everything from a decade ago is not the "miracle solution" that Classic needs. Classic needs a LOT of solutions, because we have a LOT of problems. There is no one single solution to automatically fix everything.

As far as I'm concerned, Classic doesn't need these old levels back. Nor do our players specifically want old classic back. The players of classic want the server to be fixed up, not replaced. If they wanted to play an entirely new server (which is essentially what you're suggesting,) they would have stopped playing classic a long time ago.

The fact of the matter is that you simply cannot simply come to our server after never extensively playing it, tell our staff team: "hey, stop everything you're working on because our idea is better," and expect them to drop everything and work on this massive restoration project.

From what I can see, you guys are just using our server's current state as an excuse to try and regain old classic. You sure as hell don't give a damn about us; you're just doing this for yourselves. Don't even play the "well this will help you guys" bull****. This is about you guys realizing your nostalgic dreams. Whether it was a good thing or not, old classic is dead and gone (reference to a song.) So don't show up one day, introduce your grand scheme, then expect to sit back on UN or w/e the hell you're from for several months while our staff works hard on your project. If you want old classic back, restore it yourselves. Don't show up one day and expect people to do it for you.

Classic, as it is, cannot afford to have the entire dev team work on this restoration project while the current players slowly leave over the many months it will take. You guys don't find that as a problem because you don't have to sit around all day waiting for a GC to log on to have some entertainment. You guys have the luxury of sitting around on UN or w/e until the project is complete. We don't.

In the end, we have to do what's best for our current players and current server. We can't afford to neglect them for months just because some oldbie players want their server back. We need to fix classic for our current players, not replace it for previous players.

I can already envision your counter arguments that range from "look at the polls you retard" to "this move would save your server idiot." Don't give me that bull****. This move is about saving your server, not our server. I miss graal2000; it was my first server. It had wayyyy more quests than classic might ever have. I wish it could return, but I don't around telling people to work for months on it just so I can live out my nostalgia. It's ****ing selfish to try and tell a server what to do for your own personal wants. Your idea would essentially kill our server, and from it's ashes, your server would be born. That's good for you; not good for us. Would it be best for the server known as Classic? Perhaps it would. But it's not whats best for classic's current players. We survived for years on a 30-40 avg playercount by hosting the hell out of our events while a variety of dev teams screwed around on the next "classic-saving project". The failure of the many dev teams has ultimately resulted in a massive decline for our server. We have to fix the problems we made; not cover them up in some levels from the early 2000s.

So there you have it. Whether you agree with that I said (however unlikely) or not, do realize it's going to take far more than a thread will a poll on a forum to bring back your old server. It's going to take hours and hours of work, something that you guys need to do if you want your server back. Classic's staff isn't going to do it for you while you sit around and wait for it to happen.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:14 PM
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HD sucks and kills a lot of aspects of Classic, thus it should be top priority. Of course, its going to take a lot of work to change.

And now I'm going to complete switch gears with the next post. Enjoy.

idk if you remember but....from what i heard thor made a new hd(clientside) because people were "crying that the serverside hd sucked" dont worry that wasnt me, then he switched for clientside and now you want it switched back, wth?
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Thank you Laura, but in all fairness 3 say the current HD is fine and 48 others are having an issue with the current HD.

Doesn't majority rule?
this is not un :P

actually everyone *****ed about serverside at one time and now its about clientside.
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Both suck. Server side has its flaws, as does client. I don't pretend to understand how they work, but I'm told there are better ways.

As for "wanting it switched back," I don't care which one we use, though I think server is better. I simply want the best HD we can have that actually works. What that is, I don't know, so I'll leave it up to the so-called experts.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:19 PM
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serverside sk bcause its detect where the PLAYER is on your screen.

clientside is good because its detect where you are on YOUR screen.

so if u lag spike a little you can lose with that.
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ok, I'm really sick of hearing this reason about "current classic players"

look, go on classic and send the thread to your current players ok?

its not really ONLY about CURRENT players, its about people who want to play classic, PERIOD.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:22 PM
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No, you want to play "old classic", not current classic. Don't give me that bull****. I'm thinking about the consequences of such a move for the people that currently play classic; something you guys are failing to think about b/c you're blinded by your nostalgia.
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