The Truth

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Xelnaga

That's not even neccessarily true anymore. I have taken notice that pricings have exponentially dropped over the last few months. Sten would be an ideal example, rolling today for $200,000-$300,000 comparing to december's $1mil.
Regardless if there was spawned cash or not, these objects will still exist at a lowered value and currently the values are decreasing and settling.
Far priceyer weapons (Shipka, DR, PBP, MT, Ak47), are making these changes as well at a much slower pace.
Drying money from the economy is very effective, It can be further executed with a few auctions and weapon releases at Neotechnology.

It doesn't solve anything. Yea, you take 3 million g's out of the economy, but you're putting 3 million g's worth of something back in it.

It's good that prices are dropping, but there's still 500000 of everything floating around somewhere. And if prices become too low, we then hit another problem...

Everything is just so unbalanced, I don't think there's anyway to get things back to equilibrium without a reset (largely due to duping/spawning).

Back to the original point: simply making it so that jobs give you more money would just causes prices to rise again.

[Darklux]

The problem with hard decision over players is, that they sometimes have to be done.

On gk nothing is moving because the playerbase is trying to prevent any bigger change on the totally corrupted gameplay, which is just based on gathering rare items, which have no other than collectible use as people hardly fight and the monsters overal, are quite weak.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Jeez, already at it are ya guys? I wouldn't start ranting yet until we see this "New Era". Don't worry about it - I've seen a lot of people who are so hilariously incompetent that a lot of people can't guess why they haven't been fired/removed.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Dark_Zeratul101

Jeez, already at it are ya guys? I wouldn't start ranting yet until we see this "New Era". Don't worry about it - I've seen a lot of people who are so hilariously incompetent that a lot of people can't guess why they haven't been fired/removed.

we have seen it.

[DazJenova]

Originally Posted by Frankie

we have seen it.

That was when the gmap was messed up, you aint seen it recently.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by DazJenova

That was when the gmap was messed up, you aint seen it recently.

The gmap looks almost nothing like you saw when dev was opened (thank mesh). It's going well, we're working on cleaning the gmap up (bad use of water tiles) and adding inside levels

[Frankie]

90% of the buildings are probably going to look gray and generic.

[DazJenova]

Tim you also need to do alot of detail btw, there's still some to be done.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by DazJenova

Tim you also need to do alot of detail btw, there's still some to be done.

Yes, I know. I've been busy. =(

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Why did the NPC Shop at unstick me change? And what about Ammo Mart? Those gray tables dont fit in there

[Curt1zzle]

Originally Posted by Frankie

we have seen it.

No you haven't. You saw an overworld that hadn't been touched a few days into my position that was released behind Angel and I's back. That's what you saw. Mesh and others have made tremendous progress.

[Banditz]

Frankie, you complain too much.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Banditz

Frankie, you complain too much.

lol

[Aldaris]

One addition I would like to see is the ability for players to stock ammo (without pay) at NeoTech, or for workers to be hired.

The Neorifle ammo hasn't been stocked in a few days, and there isn't any other place to purchase it.

[TheMaestro]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

One addition I would like to see is the ability for players to stock ammo (without pay) at NeoTech, or for workers to be hired.

The Neorifle ammo hasn't been stocked in a few days, and there isn't any other place to purchase it.

Your bandwidth exceeded.

[CharlieM]

While we are on the subject of New Era, I would like to see maybe an Industrial styled Island that would be on its own seperate Gmap (Smaller though) and it would be full-pk inside and out, and perhaps it could be scripted so that you can choose if you want to go to the hospital there, and if you do its got an immunity timer so that you can fully heal before you can leave or something, If you used the fullpk zone idea it would need a way to prevent campers

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

While we are on the subject of New Era, I would like to see maybe an Industrial styled Island that would be on its own seperate Gmap (Smaller though) and it would be full-pk inside and out, and perhaps it could be scripted so that you can choose if you want to go to the hospital there, and if you do its got an immunity timer so that you can fully heal before you can leave or something, If you used the fullpk zone idea it would need a way to prevent campers

I like the idea.

For the hospital, you could enable it so the floor that the players heal on (after their death) is off limits; meaning, once you leave that room, you cannot run back to it for protection.

[GarethOmni]

I agree with more new areas on Era.

Putting more roads down, more cities, and having a farther distance from one place to the next would create a more realistic need for cars as well.

It took years for southridge to be created, and even then it was mostly due to the work of a single staff member Rick.

Moar areas plz.

[Pimmeh]

You want to avoid spreading the playerbase too much though...

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

I agree with more new areas on Era.

Putting more roads down, more cities, and having a farther distance from one place to the next would create a more realistic need for cars as well.

It took years for southridge to be created, and even then it was mostly due to the work of a single staff member Rick.

Moar areas plz.

a gmap that big would make sense if we had 300+ players on daily.

[GarethOmni]

Originally Posted by Frankie

a gmap that big would make sense if we had 300+ players on daily.

Yeah, that's true.

But we don't have a lot of players because of the server's "Tunnel Vision" approach for crap to do.

pk pk pk pk pk pk pk pk pk pk pk pk.

Oh right, did I mention Pk?

[Dark_Zeratul101]

What else is there to do on Era other than PKing and grinding for money?
It's interesting, how on a game built around people killing stuff; people complain that it's all about killing stuff.

Unholy Nation? Lots of killing (and events)
Zodiac? People level up so they're strong enough to kill others.
Valikorlia? From my experience people mostly RPed to fight others.
Era? You get the point now.

[Frankie]

countless times in the past people have brought up the idea that Era shouldn't focus all on PKing and not once has anyone done anything about it nor have they brought any decent ideas to the table. the only thing people can think of is role playing, but these days players are not interested in that at all. they just want to mess stuff up and kill people.

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by Frankie

countless times in the past people have brought up the idea that Era shouldn't focus all on PKing and not once has anyone done anything about it nor have they brought any decent ideas to the table. the only thing people can think of is role playing, but these days players are not interested in that at all. they just want to mess stuff up and kill people.

Isn't playing instruments a thing players can do while not PKing?

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

Isn't playing instruments a thing players can do while not PKing?

Yes, and businesses arn't pking either. =P
-chance
-lucky grab

eh, all I can think of for now.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

Isn't playing instruments a thing players can do while not PKing?

I wasn't trying to say there wasn't anything to do besides PKing. instruments don't compare to PKing. you don't say to a new player "well you can PK, or you can play instruments!"

I just feel there should be a good idea that offers players a completely different way to play the game.

I don't know, I'm having trouble putting my idea into words here, but it's more than just "stuff" to do when not PKing.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I wasn't trying to say there wasn't anything to do besides PKing. instruments don't compare to PKing. you don't say to a new player "well you can PK, or you can play instruments!"

Well, the way it would go is more along the lines of:

"Well you can PK, or you can win hundreds of events in order to afford to buy and play instruments."

There is no way I would be telling a newbie that they could play instruments until they have a handle on the existing events first.

[salesman]

In a game based on pking, yea, it's kind of hard to turn it into Barny Online - With Guns!. You can add things to make it more interesting (events, gangs, collecting the best weapons, etc), but it's always going to revolve around pking unless you want to turn the game into something it's not.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Well, the way it would go is more along the lines of:

"Well you can PK, or you can win hundreds of events in order to afford to buy and play instruments."

There is no way I would be telling a newbie that they could play instruments until they have a handle on the existing events first.

which reminds me. in an attempt to give players something to do besides PKing, instruments are released in which you need to rely on PK skill in events to win event coins in order to get these instruments. or you can buy them, but I still firmly believe you shouldn't be able to trade event items.

which leads me to my main argument, it would be nice if players can do things on the server in which they don't have to PK to get there nor should PKing be involved with it. businesses are the only thing that really come into mind here. Sales is right though.

[death_striker]

Just leave Era the way it is. Dont bring a new Gmap. Era just needs a RESET. There is absolutly nothing wrong with the current Gmap.



-death_striker -Trial-(FAQ)

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by death_striker

Just leave Era the way it is. Dont bring a new Gmap. Era just needs a RESET. There is absolutly nothing wrong with the current Gmap.



-death_striker -Trial-(FAQ)

The GMAP right now is confusing and needs to be better organized.

If we were to just initiate a reset now, we would not be able to implement some of the new things we plan to.

Resetting would only lead to another reset eventually; the root cause of this "economy" has not been fixed. Even with duping no longer a problem, there are other things that can be fixed or enhanced.

I disagree with what was going on with Angel's idea for the new overworld, and as the new development admin (in charge of Era's development), I will keep in mind what players want, and also discuss with other staff what they think will be best so that it is not rushed in to as it was before.

[Eclipse]

i agree with not getting a whole new gmap, if you need to change around places so you can implement some new ideas but i really dont think that most the era players want 3 islands and taking trains to get there and boats to get to the other.

and for all you complaining about nothing to to beside PK'in
shut up thats era, we raid, we kill, we make fun of the people we kill

[GarethOmni]

I'm talking about adding versatility to the two dimensional broken record that is Era.

But it looks like that is already being done, I've been gone for a long time and now I see these instruments, it's a great start.

[Frankie]

if you want to play instruments and do other stuff with dumb useless NPCs, go play UN srsly now.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

I'm talking about adding versatility to the two dimensional broken record that is Era.

Uhm... Fixing the "two dimensional broken record" should be top priority. Adding versatility to a broken server won't actually help much (e.g Jenn Era)

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Lol your right if you say no he goes corrupt

I know this isn't relevant to at hand but, Someone negged rep me saying don't say things you can't back up, Well okay I didn't feel the need to back it up but I guess I will.

Mesh LAT's a lot, and one of the spots he's latted every so often is on Atrius, So now I have a selection of things I can prove my point with. (Poor hiring equaled into problematic people being hired again and again)

Most recent memory is Mesh changed a level that had just been fixed by a very good LAT, Mesh's add ons equaled in the links not working, the scripts not working, and all in all it wasn't as good. So when I asked him to change it back, He first got mad at me, Then someone else asked him, they got in an argument which resulted in the other person quitting, Then we changed the level back anyways and mesh got pissed and starting spawning guns and dropping them (I know it was only UC but it still had players) So he was fired. I like Mesh and all, and agree he can do good levels but whoever neg repped me obviously wanted me to share a small portion of proof I have.

[Chris]

The server is being revamped again? lol

[Damix2]

Oh hey Chris!