New Manager

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Remonq

earlier in the thread something was said by one of the PWA that the players opinion doesn't matter, but the way i see it, almost every single classic staff member, including the Admins is opposed to this solution.

i'd also like to say that i never once talked to any of the PWA's concerning the review, not even Bell.

I wasn't in the review. Now everyone just stop this fighting before I blow.
You all claim to be adults and every one of you have to admit I've treated you as such unless you acted like an 8 year old so stop acting like one.

1. yes, the review was flawed
2. yes, the pwa made mistakes in the review.
3. yes, the staff of Classic are also to blame for some of the mistakes.
4. yes, player opinion matters
5. no, DC is not a cheerleader, not a single person caught the reference I even meant "Save the cheerleader, save the world. I apologize to DC.
6. This is not over yet because quite frankly I'm not pleased at all with the end result but not a thing is going to happen differantly until I personally speak to all parties involved.
7. I don't think any of you realize it but every single one of you is becoming a cause of Classic's eminent demise.

[BlackSolider]

I love the response "this dual manager system will kill classic. so im gonna stop playing."

Lets be realistic here, which is really killing classic? Two managers (hopefully) getting work done? Or people not playing classic.

Common.

[Remonq]

thanks bell for showing your willingness to correct the situation

[MysticX2X]

What might kill Classic is 2 people with equal power having a different say.

[DutchGuy]

The problem that Graal is suffering with is, qualified people making right choices.
Classic's staff is with no doubt kindergarten led by people who rather show off then actually do something for a change.
This goes for the PWA aswell. I don't know who's in charge of the PWA, but if that is you Bell, I would seriously consider to kick Tig and TSadmin out, and if not, I will seriously send 10000 mails to Stefan, because he's the core to all trouble. The fact he let's lil kiddies run his puppet show is the main reason Classic is and will always be a low peak from now on.
It would be a fine descision for them to pull the plug eventually graal will die anyway, cause 2D is 90s

I mean, look in the other threads, haha we have GC's fighting over what events they host and how they do it haha.
We have admins that are not aware of descision being made by the PWA.

I mean find some structure in the organization that leads classic, then work on a better server.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by DutchGuy

The problem that Graal is suffering with is, qualified people making right choices.
Classic's staff is with no doubt kindergarten led by people who rather show off then actually do something for a change.
This goes for the PWA aswell. I don't know who's in charge of the PWA, but if that is you Bell, I would seriously consider to kick Tig and TSadmin out, and if not, I will seriously send 10000 mails to Stefan, because he's the core to all trouble. The fact he let's lil kiddies run his puppet show is the main reason Classic is and will always be a low peak from now on.
It would be a fine descision for them to pull the plug eventually graal will die anyway, cause 2D is 90s

I mean, look in the other threads, haha we have GC's fighting over what events they host and how they do it haha.
We have admins that are not aware of descision being made by the PWA.

I mean find some structure in the organization that leads classic, then work on a better server.

kicking aerox out of classic would be a start

[MysticX2X]

The GC's aren't fighting in my opinion but that's how it comes off I guess.

[BlackSolider]

It looks they are. Not really sure why.

[DutchGuy]

You should keep your bashing at eachother to a minimum or take it to a PM. The way you guys prefer to communicate shows how pro you are. Not.

[Shadow87]

Gladius, we have 2 managers, work should have been being released their first day on the job!

But yea, Im glad bell said that because it still says what I said from the start, before the review even happened. The PWA do not play classic nor know classic enough to make a decision about who our manager should be. Making a 2nd manager and not firing storm seemed a little lazy, and corrupt. This in my opinion, made PWA look very, very corrupt. I saw tig on client the other day, 4 hours on classic on his account, 4 hours is enough to pick our manager?

When you said you are going to change the result of all this bell, I hope you mean removing both storm and thor from manager. Storm for obvious reasons, I dont even know how he managed to stay as manager, thats why I say PWA is corrupt. Thor I dont think should be manager right off the bat because hes biased, hes basically another HR, and classic will again become a test subject and nothing will ever be permanent on the server. I said that to TS , I guess it never made it out.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Bell

I wasn't in the review.
6. This is not over yet because quite frankly I'm not pleased at all with the end result but not a thing is going to happen differantly until I personally speak to all parties involved.

Once again I flipflopped and I apologize for what its worth. There will be no additional changes made on my part, either from a PWA standpoint or as a staff/player.

The review is over and its results are being left as they are. We will not be doing a 3rd review. I'm sorry if this isn't acceptable but I will no longer be involved in a struggle for power and control. I'm hoping that the staff can be mature enough to work this out to a resolution where players and staff alike can have something good to look forward to in the future.

[MysticX2X]

Makes no sense. We had a poll in which the players did not like dual management, yet PWA think's it's right? Things were already fine the way they were with Storm pumping activity...

So much for customer satisfaction. People wonder why Graal doesn't get new people too often.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Makes no sense. We had a poll in which the players did not like dual management, yet PWA think's it's right? Things were already fine the way they were with Storm pumping activity...

So much for customer satisfaction. People wonder why Graal doesn't get new people too often.

Nobody knows what will happen, I like how everyone is trying to predict the future. The players of Classic should open a fortune telling business.

[weeway]

Fighting about it like 6 yearolds isent going to solve anything
just stop complaining and get usto it
get on graal and start helping out the management is fine for now
pluse fireing storm may make you happy but the outher manager could end up being th same
just stop your stupid argueing and do something to help this server

[xnervNATx]

lol jade , i was gonna write something but your post made me laugh the way you try to act seriously with all that swear and grammar error

[weeway]

[Kill]

Jade calling people younger than her?!
Laura telling people about grammar?!

What on earth...

[Shadow87]

I always get a good laugh at jade trying to spell....
This thread is obviously not worth **** anymore because we are not getting a new manager, so yea..

[Unpredlctable]

so i guess it'll be FOUR! MORE! YEARS! until the next review of the goddamn managers of this sorry server like honestly

bell you make me cry

this whole thread bites, you guys all suck

except midi. and you're cool too, PH@NTOM.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Kill

Jade calling people younger than her?!
Laura telling people about grammar?!

What on earth...

kill caring about graal

what on earth...

[Darlene159]

You guys are just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
It's over. Move on...