Frankie - Page 3

Elizabeth · #31 03-12-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Funny I don't remember ever seeing him on Era, before or after he became manager.

funny, i remember seeing him on almost every time i was on era, and i'm on era everyday. he's answered my questions, and has responded to my PMs.

LordSquirt · #32 03-12-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Deo from your post it seems you want whats best for Era. I have nothing against you and as far as I can tell nor does anyone else, your even admired because of your determination to make Era a better server. But simply we just doubt your lack of experience with a server as unique as Era and we believe the direction your taking the server in would ruin Era by transforming it into something completely different. Era and its players are very different from any server on Graal, meaning Era has to be managed differently then any server on Graal. Anyway sadly so far it seems like your just repeating the mistakes of past managers because you were not present to learn from their errors like other qualified members of the community were.

You make it sound like he doesn't take anyone's suggestions. If you believe something should be done why don't you just PM him your ideas, or a development person your ideas and then they will be regarded. I believe the Dev Server is also going to be open to the public, therefore, if you have anything to contribute you can.

pig132 · #33 03-12-2009, 10:36 AM

man look @ u guys haha

DazJenova · #34 03-12-2009, 01:24 PM

Fact of the matter is the Dev server will be open once the systems are working correctly on it, then people can input their ideas to make it alot better. I'm tired of seeing these "This Manager sucks" threads, stop trying to remove every single manager who's managed era just because you don't "see" the work that's being done on Dev and on RC. Maybe's not alot on Era atm but i can sure damn tell you that we have alot on Dev and a few little things on era currently aswell. Bottom line is Deo is doing a good job and is making sure every staff is acive and doing something, also making sure the Dev server is getting developed on a steady pace so get off his **** and wait till things are complete, then you will take back what ever you say regarding the work we've put in.

PS : It takes a staff team to develop a server not just "ONE" manager so it's not the managers fault if they are constantly telling people to do stuff and stuff doesen't get done that much, this is different on the other hand stuff gets done really fast with the team we have now.

zim5354 · #35 03-13-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova

PS : It takes a staff team to develop a server not just "ONE" manager so it's not the managers fault if they are constantly telling people to do stuff and stuff doesen't get done that much, this is different on the other hand stuff gets done really fast with the team we have now.

Its what he is telling them to do that is wrong, I already said Deo is a good manager but just believe he is taking the server in the wrong way. Also you cant blame people for not having hope in work getting done? Remember many previous managers promised new Era and changes only for them to quit a few months later.

Shotoo2 · #36 03-13-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Funny I don't remember ever seeing him on Era, before or after he became manager.

Funny, I saw him on Era all the time when I was his boss. Maybe you just weren't paying attention.

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Originally Posted by zim5354

When a manager resigns or gets fired that means they let a server fall so far into decay that either they or their superiors know that it cannot be salvaged, I really would like to avoid that happening with Era.

That isn't necessarily true, especially in the case of a manager's resignation.
People have lives outside of Graal, y'know.

papajchris · #37 03-13-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Its what he is telling them to do that is wrong, I already said Deo is a good manager but just believe he is taking the server in the wrong way. Also you cant blame people for not having hope in work getting done? Remember many previous managers promised new Era and changes only for them to quit a few months later.

Tons is being done on dev, i don't understand why you want it to change. The new gmap, new scripts, new ideas, new everything besides the basis of Era. Now i don't work on Dev, so dont attempt to use my words against the staff working hard on it; but its what ive been shown and such.

Also to the point of this thread, Idk frankie so i can't really saying if hes better or not. But, saying he is an oldbie is NOT an arguement nor will that mean old players will come back. I'm getting kind of tired of people saying that they want old Era. Ive played Era off and on since 2001, and to be honest I HATED the older Era's aside from a few things. Looking back though, there hasnt been ANY major updates that i can really think of that are original or creative. (im sure their may be some, but none come to mind immeditaley). Stuff is finally being done now, big updates, just give it a chance...

salesman · #38 03-13-2009, 08:47 PM

Frankie knows what Era needs and he knows how to get it done. He has experience in both managing AND development. However, he kind of blew his chances when he quit (even though houdiman was pretty much out to get him).

If Frankie joined the staff team, I could (and would want to) see him given manager if something happened to Deophite, but I don't think there's even the slightest chance that the PWAs would make him manager out of the blue.
would be nice though

xJenn · #39 03-14-2009, 12:04 AM

Lol sadly, Deo isn't getting PWA. So I guess he's sticking around for quite sometime. With what Frankie said on the first page, I do believe it's unfair on other people that he was able to be slotted into Era Staff without even knowing anything about Era at all. Sure it was ok that he was there to watch over the abuse etc, but it was stupid that he was able to even get PROMOTED after his job was supposed to be done after EC quitted with everyone else.
I also question if he really wanted this job in the first place.

Deas_Voice · #40 03-14-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xJenn

With what Frankie said on the first page, I do believe it's unfair on other people that he was able to be slotted into Era Staff without even knowing anything about Era at all.

as manager or any job? (haven't read the post.)
i think you could get a job without knowing anything about the server is a challenge.

pig132 · #41 03-14-2009, 01:23 AM

haha man u guys r still @ it

DazJenova · #42 03-14-2009, 05:56 PM

To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

salesman · #43 03-14-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova

To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

Not really. There's only so much you can do when you're not the Manager. You can't make any big decisions on your own -- that's the manager's job...and if you do try to do something, it can be shut down instantly by the big man.

I could especially see it being difficult to act on your own when the manager is also your friend (which is how it was with Frankie and Icarus). You wouldn't want to start any trouble.

Sure, as server admin you have the same rights, but you don't have the authority to decide what direction to take the server.

DazJenova · #44 03-14-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

Not really. There's only so much you can do when you're not the Manager. You can't make any big decisions on your own -- that's the manager's job...and if you do try to do something, it can be shut down instantly by the big man.

I could especially see it being difficult to act on your own when the manager is also your friend (which is how it was with Frankie and Icarus). You wouldn't want to start any trouble.

Sure, as server admin you have the same rights, but you don't have the authority to decide what direction to take the server.

He did when Icarus was incharge becaise Icarus had no clue and woudn't go over Frankie's word.

Frankie · #45 03-14-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DazJenova

To be honest frankie had enough power to do something when icarus was manager and when frankie was server admin and still didn't do anything, so i doubt frankie would make a good manager. That's just my thought no offence to frankie or anything.

Back when Icarus and I were in management you hardly played so I don't see why you're making such an assumption that I "didn't do anything" while I had power. You're completely wrong. I was doing a lot for the server.