Ppa...?

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by papajchris

It is like that Yoca, usuaully when someone goes to log off they are standing still for a few seconds and end up gettin killed anyways, or they get killed when they get back on. Either way its really useless to log off

Yeah but 2 seconds doesn't really give you that much time to finish the job. Sometimes the bullets don't even register. It should be increased to 20 - 30 seconds like most games have already done.

Originally Posted by salesman

I believe the count-down thingy has been fixed, but I was just using that experience as an example of the measures people are willing to take to avoid a death.

Yeah I've already been through stuff like that. There were times when me and a group of people formed a bootleg Bounty Hunter and would get on a trial account named "Message" and use that to PM the target "You have been placed on the bounty list".

There would be some pricks that would log off as soon as we cornered them and PM us 10 minutes later saying "HAHA U GUYZ DIDNT KILL ME YET, OWNED!!".

I have a feeling that even if the non-pk zones were taken off that people will use that strategy when they are about to get killed. There has to be a way to increase the log off timer.

[Masa]

Originally Posted by zim5354

the only reason people even care about ppa are the guns

Right.
The thing that made PPA "exclusive" was the guns that they had.
To get a grasp on how much faster guns have become, take a look at mainstream guns and compare them to the PPA guns that have(for the most part) been unmodified since their reign.
In the hey-days, yeah, PPA's guns were considered to be the "best".
People would often say, "PPA's only good because they have those lame guns", etc, etc.
PPA was a small group of people protecting people given any situation. Respectively, their guns were slightly faster than guns available to the common player.
If you compare them to today's guns, they're not so great.
In fact, the three years or so of gun "development" has buffed mainstream guns so much that they're puny in comparison.
If I were to give PPA guns the edge over mainstream guns that they once had, it would be beyond lame. Their guns would fire ridiculously fast, with walling capabilities out the kazoo, doing at least 20-25 damage.

Needless to say, the bar for PKing has been drastically lowered over the years.
It's all about speed, speed, speed; spray, spray, spray.
As much as I would love to "tune down" every gun on Era to increase the demand for PK-skill, the trigger-happy products of New Era would complain, simply because they're too dependent on the gun than their PK-skill. As guns admin, this realization is depressing to say the least.

Point being: PPA now needs more than just the guns to make them "exclusive".
About the large amount of NoPK-zones, well, hopefully Angel's suggestion of making one centralized safe-zone would debunk that.

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by Masa

Point being: PPA now needs more than just the guns to make them "exclusive".

What they need is a better purpose.

[Freudian_slip]

Originally Posted by Yocas

What they need is a better purpose.

Their purpose is being scripted, not sure how far along it is yet.

[zim5354]

Originally Posted by Masa

Right.
The thing that made PPA "exclusive" was the guns that they had.
To get a grasp on how much faster guns have become, take a look at mainstream guns and compare them to the PPA guns that have(for the most part) been unmodified since their reign.
In the hey-days, yeah, PPA's guns were considered to be the "best".
People would often say, "PPA's only good because they have those lame guns", etc, etc.
PPA was a small group of people protecting people given any situation. Respectively, their guns were slightly faster than guns available to the common player.
If you compare them to today's guns, they're not so great.
In fact, the three years or so of gun "development" has buffed mainstream guns so much that they're puny in comparison.
If I were to give PPA guns the edge over mainstream guns that they once had, it would be beyond lame. Their guns would fire ridiculously fast, with walling capabilities out the kazoo, doing at least 20-25 damage.

Needless to say, the bar for PKing has been drastically lowered over the years.
It's all about speed, speed, speed; spray, spray, spray.
As much as I would love to "tune down" every gun on Era to increase the demand for PK-skill, the trigger-happy products of New Era would complain, simply because they're too dependent on the gun than their PK-skill. As guns admin, this realization is depressing to say the least.

Point being: PPA now needs more than just the guns to make them "exclusive".
About the large amount of NoPK-zones, well, hopefully Angel's suggestion of making one centralized safe-zone would debunk that.

PPA has no purpose, no one cares enough about one or two deaths to shell out money to hire PPA. As for the guns slow them all down again, PKing on Era has become watered down and just about who can press D the most, players will like the change once its made and if not it can always be reverted.

[Curt1zzle]

I'll take it back again.

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

I'll take it back again.

This

[TheSpude_P2P]

Just turn PPA into some kind of backup squad able to be hired by gangs who lack players when raided.

[deathbarrier99]

Originally Posted by TheSpude_P2P

Just turn PPA into some kind of backup squad able to be hired by gangs who lack players when raided.

mayor

[Ace_Ciprioni]

PPA has been very useless ever since Chrisz left. its always deleted or inactive or the leader is to arrogant and hires no one

Chrisz era PPA was respected. as a newb you would see PPA and think OMG RUN. the only time i remember PPA being useful since chrisz left was when Misfit (Nimblothslayer) was the owner. he hired people who could actualy PK and who are actualy active. my self being one of them. i remember i made a good 40k for PPA in 1 week. i would set at the beach and offer to protect the lil newbies shelling.

then you have things like this that happen wich is why PPA Dies. Demisis gets owner of it while manager O.o hires 5 people spawns them some guns and calls it a day.

As for what the other guy said BH and PPA in a way are kinda the same. but very different at the same time. Bounty Hunter is suposed to be a contract to kill 1 person and there buisness is done. were as PPA your pay them to protect you/your gang/your party they help you defend against those killing you. one of the funnest things ive ever done with these to biz's is put a bounty on my self then go pay PPA to protect me and stand at the beach was some real Entertainment

but that aside. PPA needs a new owner. dont waste your time with a a biz to make "the new era" just leave the old parts of era alone. leave the history. would you blow up the Statue of liberty so that you can put a "new biz" thats "so great" leave history alone. just find a good active. down to earth friendly Owner who has some real PK skills.

my opinion, Syzmic, Jonnybot, one of the bots atleast. or even DEATH STRIKER!!! lol

[deathbarrier99]

AE deserves PPA more than any of you so get off his nuts. Ear really has no reason to play until the new PPA system is done.

The system was really supposed to done like a month ago, but apparently Chris has more important things to do (host Valentine events, staff block events, etc.) so it hasn't been done.

[cbk1994]

The PPA system is still being worked on. It should be done soon, but I don't know when.

[TSAdmin]

I don't know why people keep saying "It's still being worked on". It might just be me, but if I say a system is being developed, even if I had to sit there and do it all myself, there is no reason why it should take so long for it to be made. I guess focus is easily drifted off when something else comes along, but surely if you actually take the time to put some elbow grease into it, it'd be off your back in no time at all, and players could get into that while they wait for the "other important systems" that they'll never see progression on unless they had an RC and NPC-Control to get developed.

Just my opinion D:

[Lyndzey]

Originally Posted by zim5354

who honestly fears one death?

Ya...PPA honestly never served a purpose except to be an exclusive club. It kind of got out of hand when there were secret islands being built for us. I was surprised how many people wanted to be in it though, it's not like we really did anything.

[Aldaris]

Bounty Hunter is basically Wil. I haven't seen anybody else on tag excluding Sigma (from time to time).

The same goes for PPA.

I'm not sure what the new system will bring, but whose going to pay $200-500 just to see somebody die once, or to be protected for "x" amount of time. To me, it's fun, but not worth the cost.