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Exile_P2P 01-24-2009 07:52 AM

Ppa...?
 
I think PPA should be given to someone else, it's not even active and running, I barely ever see anyone on the tag, if anyone has a tag, I only know of Zoo.

I see no point in having PPA around if it's just going to be inactive.

I say either just destroy it again or switch it to a new leader so that business can actually have some use to it.

DarkRenji 01-24-2009 07:59 AM

I never see anyone besides the owner on tag (AE)

I asked him a few times for a try-out about 3 weeks ago and he tells me "Wait to I mass for tryouts", these tryouts just never seem to come...

Its pretty worthless atm I belive it needs a new owner

Exile_P2P 01-24-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1459492)
I never see anyone besides the owner on tag (AE)

I asked him a few times for a try-out about 3 weeks ago and he tells me "Wait to I mass for tryouts", these tryouts just never seem to come...

Its pretty worthless atm I belive it needs a new owner

I asked him late last night, early this morning, whichever you consider it for one, and he's like hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and just walked away, I only see him on tag idling though, never at the building or doing anything, just sitting there.

I see Zoo occasionally when he's just idling.

DarkRenji 01-24-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Exile_P2P (Post 1459494)
I asked him late last night, early this morning, whichever you consider it for one, and he's like hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and just walked away, I only see him on tag idling though, never at the building or doing anything, just sitting there.

I see Zoo occasionally when he's just idling.

Yeah, when i see him on tag, he is never doing his job he is just idleing at unstick or once a blue moon i see him walking around with his tag but he still isnt doing anything x.x

TSAdmin 01-24-2009 08:53 AM

I would also like to see PPA gain a greater purpose. I thought it was just me and my timezone, but yes, I only ever see those two same players on tag.

Deophite18 01-24-2009 10:25 AM

I did a tag wipe on PPA recently so that's one of the reasons. Also PPA's new system is currently still being scripted by Chris. I personally like the new one a lot and im sure when it's done it will become a lot more active.

DarkRenji 01-24-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deophite18 (Post 1459509)
I did a tag wipe on PPA recently so that's one of the reasons. Also PPA's new system is currently still being scripted by Chris. I personally like the new one a lot and im sure when it's done it will become a lot more active.

Its been inactive for about 2 weeks ( if not longer)

DuBsTeRmAn 01-24-2009 11:40 AM

2 Weeks? Make that a month..

Andre2006 01-24-2009 12:17 PM

Yeah I am waiting for the new system to come out, I am trying to do my job now as it is but it's hard without a system D:

Freudian_slip 01-24-2009 02:59 PM

The fact is AE has been waiting for a system to be made for PPA for God knows how long. He's not activiely hiring till it's done and I don't blmae him. Why would he? Theres no purpose yet.

Nataxo 01-24-2009 03:27 PM

It's full of scammers. They wanted to charge me 5k for 10 mins.

Also, the normal price is not a really good business for me either. I only hire them when I wanna feel important lol.

Also I've never seen anyone but zoo on tag

LordSquirt 01-24-2009 03:53 PM

This is the system that I wrote for PPA that is currently being made as we speak. Andy was supposed to design it, but since he quit and there was no other NAT's I had to hold it off. Chris told me recently he'll be done by it on Sunday, or Monday.

Ok, so what PPA basically needs is a system that actually allows them to do something. First of all it needs a system that actually pays them money. For example, in Bounty Hunter all they have to do is set up a bounty which costs 75 dollars, and boom that's it. PPA needs a system where you can hire them for a given time. However, PPA works by the minute, and therefore the pay has to go by the clock. The cost of the protection depends on who they are protecting. If PPA is protectiong players from a gang raid it is a different amount of pay if they are protecting people in general. Also PPA needs a system that allows them to have the same tag as the person they are protecting. How can we help protect them if we can accidentally shoot them by accident, and therefore kill them. It defeats the purpose.

Also, it might be a good idea if when someone sets a bounty on the player it informs them they have one. They then get the option if they would like to be protected by a PPA member. However, this might mean that the bounties have a timelimit, unlike the current system where they have unlimited time to finish their bounty.

The leader of PPA (AE) wants the prices the following:
This is for each PPA Agent
10 Per min for a general contract.
15 Per min for Protection and Retaliation for gangs during a raid.

If they buy more than one PPA Agent
10 percent discount for a general contract.
Example- If they buy 3 agents they pay $24 dollars instead of the $30
0 percent discount for gangs during a raid if they buy more than one agent.

The buyer has the option to buy for a set time.
There would be two set times where they can buy from. Either 15 minutes, or 30 minutes. If they buy the 30 minute package they get a discount. For example for a general contract they would only have to pay 275 instead of the 300 it would normally cost. For the protection during a raid it would cost 420 instead of the 450.

For individual clients if they die they also get a small percentage of their money back. Let's say they get 25 percent of their money back if they die. This would give them the incentive to buy a contract. However, if they die multiple times it would be the same as they die once. We don't want to get 0 profit, and this would prevent them to die on purpose and waste our time.

For gangs I'm thinking that, when a gang hires you, you'll get a (PPA Blazian Bandits) or (PPA Black Holst) tag that will give you immunity to their weapons and vice versa.

Also, for the Bounty Hunter system they can tell who has a bounty on them. Can you do pretty much the same thing, but instead allow the person see who is in PPA. This would allow them to know how many PPA agents they can buy and who they can buy. This would allow the leader (AE) to see who is active and is also contributing.

Finally, when a player has a bounty on them they would have the option to get PPA to protect them. If the player does this option the bounty would now be time limited to about 30 minutes. If Bounty Hunter fails then PPA gets the money if PPA fails Bounty Hunter gets the money.

PS:The prices aren't set right now until I talk to AE and this is just the basic gist of it. Also, dumb forums won't let me put dollar and percent signs :cry:

zim5354 01-24-2009 07:07 PM

or you could leave ppa alone, ppa has always been an "elitist" group, nothing less nothing more. dont try and change it, the only reason people even care about ppa are the guns (idk if they are still tag locked as i haven't played in some time).

Yocas 01-24-2009 11:02 PM

PPA just need more of a purpose. Saving someone's life from one death isn't really that big of a deal. If there were jobs that involved escorting valuable goods such as supply trucks or something from a company/factory (which has been thought of thousands of times) then they could be of use.

Also, the fact that there's a non-pk zone at every corner also shows that there is no need for protection. That's also been said numerous of times. But no matter how many times I try to make this point it's always overlooked and PPA is kept the same way it's always been -- useless (no offense).

Why pay for protection when you could run to the next building and "unstick" yourself for free?

papajchris 01-25-2009 02:02 AM

PPA wouldnt usless if they werent having their job being done for them by Bounty Hunters.

Imo bounty hunters are suppose to kill individuals and thats it. And PPA is suppose to protect person(s). However, Bounty Hunters lately have been asking to be paid by gangs to get a gang base back when there aren't enough players on for that gang or w/e.

I would have thought PPA is suppose to do that kind of stuff.

If PPA did that, then they would be used alot more. Else i agree PPA would be useless. Many players are in gangs or parties and stick together. And as said before, theres no pk zones in every building and its easy to just say unstick me or click on event warpers.


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