Problem With Event and Gelat Weapons on Zone

jkool666 · #1 02-15-2009, 06:20 PM

I think the biggest problem with these weapons on Zone is the fact that when they are given to you or purchased, they can be used by ALL CLASSES. I think a lot of things went downhill playerbase wise on Zone when these types of weapons were added in this manner.

All the event and Gelat weapons should be placed into specific classes to balance them a little.

For example,

Commando would NOT recieve a weapon like Photon. Photon would obviously be placed in a much slower class.
Another example would be Plasmachaingun, that definetly belongs in a slower class.

For this to work, we would need to create a couple more classes obviously. But I can't see that being a huge problem.

What do you all think?

Dante55555 · #2 02-15-2009, 06:54 PM

I completely agree, I'm behind you 100% of the way.

Ravenblade1979 · #3 02-15-2009, 07:00 PM

I'm behind you on this Jesse. Its retarded that all classes can use these gelat weapons.

Crono · #4 02-15-2009, 07:51 PM

What about the players who bought the weapons with the ingame currency?

kia345 · #5 02-15-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

What about the players who bought the weapons with the ingame currency?

I don't think most of those weapons are available with ingame money, some are.

Crono · #6 02-15-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

I don't think most of those weapons are available with ingame money, some are.

Referring to photon, bluerifle, redrifle, etc. If I recall correctly some of the weapons you buy with ingame currency were transferred to the gelat shop.

Crow · #7 02-15-2009, 09:53 PM

I support this idea, even though I really enjoy using the photon as a commando. Still, /signed.

RevolutionJS · #8 02-15-2009, 11:07 PM

If you give some reasons why u think its so bad we can talk about it.

bahamutstevetff · #9 02-15-2009, 11:47 PM

this would make zone MUCH better, go jesse!

Donark · #10 02-16-2009, 12:53 AM

Deffintally a good idea

MagikMasterMind · #11 02-16-2009, 12:53 AM

Twinblade, reaper, commando or scout (They need speed.)

jkool666 · #12 02-16-2009, 06:31 AM

I expected these kinds of responses. I will be hoping to appoint a team to assist me in the testing/balancing of all the weapons.

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Originally Posted by Crono

Referring to photon, bluerifle, redrifle, etc. If I recall correctly some of the weapons you buy with ingame currency were transferred to the gelat shop.

Those weapons will be placed into classes as well.

MiniOne · #13 02-16-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

I expected these kinds of responses. I will be hoping to appoint a team to assist me in the testing/balancing of all the weapons.

Those weapons will be placed into classes as well.

Pick Us Again

We are smart at brain storming

and I'm sure we'd be happy to help again

I'll be on from friday - sunday if you want my help

pico57 · #14 02-16-2009, 10:38 AM

i think GELATS weps are in all classes, cuz you buy it with real money...
Not with Zone money...

Why not whith zone money!!! =)

MiniOne · #15 02-16-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pico57

i think GELATS weps are in all classes, cuz you buy it with real money...
Not with Zone money...

Why not whith zone money!!! =)

Yes gelat weps are in all classes because you buy them with real money but doesn't mean this can't be changed to balance the game. Honestly I'd much rather a balanced game then one with just a commando using a plasmachain gun or commando with double shotgun

RevolutionJS · #16 02-16-2009, 11:55 AM

Im made an thing based on the current iricia classes.
Sniper=Medic
Gold mure=Commando
Gold mags=Sapper
Gold apps=Medic and Commando
Gold ripper=Normal ripper class.
Goopistol = Marine
Gravity hammer=Commando
Assault pistol=Heavyinfantry
Flamepistol= Commando
Plasmachaingun=Defender
Plasmagun=Marine
Greenrifle=Lightinfantry
Photon=Granadier
Laserforce=Lightinfantry
Heavylaser=Sapper
Magnum=Medic
Chainsaw=Marine
Redrifle=Heavyinfantry
Bluerifle=Granadier
Silencer=Comando
Streamer=Sapper

Ravenblade1979 · #17 02-16-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Im made an thing based on the current iricia classes.
Sniper=Medic
Gold mure=Commando
Gold mags=Sapper
Gold apps=Medic and Commando
Gold ripper=Normal ripper class.
Goopistol = Marine
Gravity hammer=Commando
Assault pistol=Heavyinfantry
Flamepistol= Commando
Plasmachaingun=Defender
Plasmagun=Marine
Greenrifle=Lightinfantry
Photon=Granadier
Laserforce=Lightinfantry
Heavylaser=Sapper
Magnum=Medic
Chainsaw=Marine
Redrifle=Heavyinfantry
Bluerifle=Granadier
Silencer=Comando
Streamer=Sapper

A medic with a god damn sniper. Have your brains been beat in way too much getting lamed?

Medics heal. Why the hell should they have sniper. If anything they should have a lighter weapon. You want to give any class the sniper do Marine or Commando but not medic.

Schetti · #18 02-16-2009, 05:15 PM

...
dont take me my blueriffle from medic!

DuBsTeRmAn · #19 02-16-2009, 05:16 PM

That list sucks, and you should be able to use these weapons in every classe. You bought them with the god damn gelats and you shuold be able to use them good then.

Schetti · #20 02-16-2009, 07:48 PM

I bought all the weaps I got AT THE MOMENT(and in future probably)
in shop long time ago
Not with gelats
with ZONE Money, wich isnt so easy to get(gelats you can buy)

Ravenblade1979 · #21 02-16-2009, 08:34 PM

The problem is that a gelat weapon is for every class because people have spent money to get the gelats but I am thinking that if they were class specific then it may give a broader range to the gelat weapons and people would still be apt to purchase gelats to get them.

Liberated · #22 02-16-2009, 08:43 PM

if you from now on turn gelat weapons to specific classes, people know that when they buy the gelat weapon.

Dan · #23 02-16-2009, 11:27 PM

I will workout this problem with Jesse sometime. It'll be done on long term though.

Ravenblade1979 · #24 02-17-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I will workout this problem with Jesse sometime. It'll be done on long term though.

Dan's on the job

jkool666 · #25 02-17-2009, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

I will workout this problem with Jesse sometime. It'll be done on long term though.

I started working on this today ;P. But yes, very long-term as much testing/thinking is required.

Donark · #26 02-17-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

A medic with a god damn sniper. Have your brains been beat in way too much getting lamed?

Lmao, that was the first thing that went in my mind when I read his list xD

MiniOne · #27 02-17-2009, 09:43 AM

How about:
Sniper = REMOVED! if not give it to heavy/sapper/(slow classes besides medic)
Just remove gold weapons e.g. gold apps? : wtf is the point of them....
Goopistol: heavy/sapper/ (slow classes besides medic)
Flamepistol: heavy/sapper/ (slow classes besides medic)

Like seriously what difference is it going to make if you put a weapon in a different class everyone will just find a new way to lame, it won't make a difference. It could also spoil your profits, as well as piss a lot of players off. If real money is paid for a weapon i believe all classes should have it, i just reckon make guns which aren't so lame? or make them earn them some how.

Also guns don't really matter that much if you have skill then you should be able to kill a plasmachaingun with a medic.

bahamutstevetff · #28 02-17-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Im made an thing based on the current iricia classes.
Sniper=Medic
Gold mure=Commando
Gold mags=Sapper
Gold apps=Medic and Commando
Gold ripper=Normal ripper class.
Goopistol = Marine
Gravity hammer=Commando
Assault pistol=Heavyinfantry
Flamepistol= Commando
Plasmachaingun=Defender
Plasmagun=Marine
Greenrifle=Lightinfantry
Photon=Granadier
Laserforce=Lightinfantry
Heavylaser=Sapper
Magnum=Medic
Chainsaw=Marine
Redrifle=Heavyinfantry
Bluerifle=Granadier
Silencer=Comando
Streamer=Sapper

i agree with most of them except a few.

bluerifle should definatly stick to all classes.
why would a medic have a sniper?
why would a medic have a magnum?

jurre24d · #29 02-17-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

why would a medic have a magnum?

Because, you only have apps in that class.
I think magnum is a good idea for it.

I think sniper must be in Heavyinfantry

bahamutstevetff · #30 02-17-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d

Because, you only have apps in that class.
I think magnum is a good idea for it.

I think sniper must be in Heavyinfantry

medics are fighting classes tho, appirces is fine for medic.

jurre24d · #31 02-17-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

medics are fighting classes tho, appirces is fine for medic.

Hmm, I disagree xD.

But I think the Event weapons must be in all classes.
Because it's hard to get them.

bahamutstevetff · #32 02-17-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d

Hmm, I disagree xD.

But I think the Event weapons must be in all classes.
Because it's hard to get them.

yeah definalty event weapons in all classes since their not even overpowered.

RevolutionJS · #33 02-17-2009, 02:57 PM

Reapers arnt

MiniOne · #34 02-18-2009, 07:51 AM

Hmmmm Event prizes are (actually were) extremely hard to get so i believe they should be included in every class, as well as ones who people payed real money for....

Like seriously... who cares if a medic has a sniper rifle what difference does it make if a heavy has it? they can always just fly away and snipe you, it wouldn't make a great difference if you move a gun to another class....

My advice would just to nerf some guns so they aren't as lame... thats all i can think of suggesting

muupig · #35 02-18-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jurre24d

But I think the Event weapons must be in all classes.

Yep.

Ravenblade1979 · #36 02-18-2009, 09:38 PM

Event weapons should be all classes but gelat weapons should be made class specific.

jkool666 · #37 02-18-2009, 11:48 PM

Trader/Gelat weapons will be placed into individual classes. This will also include Jetpack. This is no longer debateable as it's to incredible of an idea.

Event Weapons I'm undecided on now.

MiniOne · #38 02-19-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666

Trader/Gelat weapons will be placed into individual classes. This will also include Jetpack. This is no longer debateable as it's to incredible of an idea.

Event Weapons I'm undecided on now.

You can watch... putting certain guns in certain classes won't change much, people will still end up laming with them.... it just be smarter to make the guns weaker much rather then give some overpowered gun to another class.

P.S. what difference will it make if you put magnums (just as a example) into e.g. marine or whatever other class, since i can basically play the same with it as a heavyinfantry as i can with commando. All you need to do is change the style of playing.

bahamutstevetff · #39 02-19-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

You can watch... putting certain guns in certain classes won't change much, people will still end up laming with them.... it just be smarter to make the guns weaker much rather then give some overpowered gun to another class.

P.S. what difference will it make if you put magnums (just as a example) into e.g. marine or whatever other class, since i can basically play the same with it as a heavyinfantry as i can with commando. All you need to do is change the style of playing.

it makes all the difference.

MiniOne · #40 02-19-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

it makes all the difference.

it doesnt make that great a difference depending on your skill level