4 Years of being stagnant - Page 2

Remonq · #41 02-15-2009, 10:46 PM

rufus has a very destructive nature about him. classic would suffer more under him and that's not what we need

Oni · #42 02-15-2009, 10:51 PM

ranger get real

Rufus · #43 02-15-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I just find it funny how you have pretty much the same track record running Graal2001 as Storm has had with Classic (yours is probably slightly better) and you're here criticizing him. When is Graal2001's release date?

Yeah, it really is hilarious. Some guy who got pushed into a position he never really wanted criticizing someone else who is supposed to be doing the same job for the server the guy played on for years? Real funny. The thing is though, I am not comparable to Storm at all and Graal2001 is not comparable to Classic either. If I asked for manager of Graal2001 and it was up on the Classic serverlist and instead of working on it I let the players slowly fade away, sure I'd accept that as a dig. Unlike Storm however, I haven't been manager for 4 years, not even half, and Graal2001 isn't on the serverlist, isn't open to the public, and hasn't received an abundance of complaints from players that have fell on deaf ears. I haven't gone for the last resort in terms of staffing, haven't disappeared for months on end, and I don't log on once a month to catch up on things to then do nothing. Hey you're totally right, holy crap I have the same track record as Master Storm!!

As I haven't directly criticized Storm in this thread, I don't see how what you said was relevant to begin with. I did suggest that both WhiteDragon and Thor were incapable of managing the server though, and I stand by it and apparently I'm not the only person who thinks that. When Stefan decided he wanted to port Classic to the iPhone, why is it that instead of going to the Classic staff he asked the Graal2001 staff to work on it? Why is it that before Thor became Dev Admin, I was asked if I was interested in the position, but declined because I had just became LAT on Graal2001 while Thor had to suck up and provide a design document to Storm to get his position? Perhaps they would make great managers, but I can imagine McDonalds is filled with staff in these current economic times.

Classic wasn't a revival project until very recently, Graal2001 is a complete revival remake of the original server. The amount of work that needs doing on Bomy Island is massive compared to the work that is needed on Classic. If it was a case of releasing two quests and a few NPCs a year, the server would be out and thriving, but that is not the case for Graal2001. You think that I can't say my opinion on the deterioration of Classic because I'm working on a server that is taking a large amount of time to get released? Your own track record is pretty weak (where is Graal2000?) yet you still feel the need to criticize others material, then criticize people who have projects that are actually alive and criticize others? That is funny.

Luda · #44 02-15-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Why would he care?

Well..isn't he the one who made Master Storm Manager?

Remonq · #45 02-15-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni

ranger get real

i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

Rufus · #46 02-15-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

He's right you do need to get real, unless you're going to throw some examples. I don't want to work on Classic, but I'm glad someone finally posted this comment for Thor so it can be addressed nicely

Oni · #47 02-15-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Remonq
i don't mean he likes to delete files randomly off servers oni. it's his nature that i'm talking about. Rufus is very good at controlling people and telling them what to do. however, he is somewhat of a manipulator and people see through it eventually. those people that do, he ends up hindering and through that hindrance comes very little progress and a loss of support overall.

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Ranger maybe he is a manipulator and all. But doesnt meen thats always a bad thing, all of you who hate him think ANYONE WHO REMOTELY likes him or is his friend, is just under some kind of mind control.
Seriously some people just agree with rufus, and im partly one of them. I dont 100% agree with everything rufus has to say, but I would sure as hell put him as DEv admin or even manager. I would see progress and a fresh classic.
Your oldbie mentality is what got classic to were it is AFTER npc server

Rufus · #48 02-15-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni

Ranger maybe he is a manipulator and all. But doesnt meen thats always a bad thing, all of you who hate him think ANYONE WHO REMOTELY likes him or is his friend, is just under some kind of mind control.
Seriously some people just agree with rufus, and im partly one of them. I dont 100 percent agree with everything rufus has to say, but I would sure as hell put him as DEv admin or even manager. I would see progress and a fresh classic.
Your oldbie mentality is what got classic to were it is AFTER npc server

No no you changed completely when you met me. We don't argue all of the time on AIM about ideas, you listen to everything I have to say, and you act to how I want you to act now. You don't have a brain of your own anymore Oni, so your comments are pretty much void.

Remonq · #49 02-15-2009, 11:18 PM

precisely what i was talking about

Rufus · #50 02-15-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

precisely what i was talking about

LMAO. caps

Oni · #51 02-15-2009, 11:21 PM

please globals, please get rid of master storm, please.
I have had so many conversations with him, and it seems that he doesnt even want to be classics manager, hes just full of excuses and has other things to do.
Just help classic out please.

Remonq · #52 02-15-2009, 11:22 PM

no i'm serious, anyone who disagrees or threatens you, you break down and discredit. and then of course, you get your lackeys to back you up

Rufus · #53 02-15-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

no i'm serious, anyone who disagrees or threatens you, you break down and discredit. and then of course, you get your lackeys to back you up

Example? Oh and why did you suddenly find this forum again and start posting?

Remonq · #54 02-15-2009, 11:25 PM

suddenly? because i'm concerned about classic. please, i'm far too concerned with more important things than you.

DarkCloud_PK · #55 02-15-2009, 11:29 PM

lets try to concentrate on the issues concerning classic and not rufus.

Remonq · #56 02-15-2009, 11:31 PM

thank you dc, you're right

Rufus · #57 02-15-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

suddenly? because i'm concerned about classic. please, i'm far too concerned with more important things than you.

You have the audacity to come onto these forums out of nowhere and claim that I manipulate breakdown and discredit people while getting my friends to back me up, while you were given the link to this thread for a reason and can't even support what you're saying? It is pretty obvious that you were told to post, and the content that you are posting has been sent to me quite a few times and they've all come from one person who has been saying it. It is ironic that you make a claim that I am the one who manipulates people into supporting me, while you're doing exactly the same for someone else. The hilarious thing about it is I've never asked anyone to post something for me, because I am very capable of supporting myself.

Cut the crap because what you're posting is far too obvious, and if you actually do care about Classic then post about it.

Remonq · #58 02-15-2009, 11:35 PM

i was given a link, shown the thread, and that's all. i wasn't told to post, i wasn't fed any lines like you would like to think. i do care about classic, and you NOT being manager or admin is critical. that's all i was posting about

DustyPorViva · #59 02-16-2009, 01:41 AM

Master Storm is a huge problem for Classic. I hated working under him, and I really wanted to help Classic but after working under him I gave that up.

Thor is a hard-working developer, but he has a hard time taking criticism, and his stuff shows it.

-Ramirez- · #60 02-16-2009, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I hated working under him, and I really wanted to help Classic but after working under him I gave that up.

I'm pretty sure this was a huge part of what made me stop a long time ago as well.

maximus_asinus · #61 02-16-2009, 02:12 AM

What exactly did Storm do to make you feel that way?

DustyPorViva · #62 02-16-2009, 02:27 AM

Well first off he was NEVER there. He gave me NO assignments, NO rights. I wanted to rescript the default map for him, he told me it wasn't needed. So he didn't even give me the needed rights(I couldn't upload images, I had only access to one NPC to script). After a couple months of getting help from BELL, I finally just quit with nothing accomplished. I couldn't do anything and he was never around nor told me anything to do. Months later, lo and behold he allowed someone else to rescript the map.

maximus_asinus · #63 02-16-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Well first off he was NEVER there. He gave me NO assignments, NO rights. I wanted to rescript the default map for him, he told me it wasn't needed. So he didn't even give me the needed rights(I couldn't upload images, I had only access to one NPC to script). After a couple months of getting help from BELL, I finally just quit with nothing accomplished. I couldn't do anything and he was never around nor told me anything to do. Months later, lo and behold he allowed someone else to rescript the map.

Don't you think these are issues the LAT Admin should be dealing with?

DustyPorViva · #64 02-16-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Don't you think these are issues the LAT Admin should be dealing with?

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

Rufus · #65 02-16-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

There wasn't a LAT or Development Admin when you were staff.

-Ramirez- · #66 02-16-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

What exactly did Storm do to make you feel that way?

In my case, it was partially the fact that Stefan just put him there out of absolutely nowhere from my perspective. It was rather insulting. Also, I do seem to recall frequent disagreements, but it was so long ago that I don't know for sure.

maximus_asinus · #67 02-16-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

What does the LAT admin have to do with anything?
And no, MS does nothing else, least he can do is actually manage the staff.

It seems like all the stuff you mentioned would be the responsibility of the LAT Admin, not the Manager (we must have very different thoughts on what the Manager does on a server).

DustyPorViva · #68 02-16-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

It seems like all the stuff you mentioned would be the responsibility of the LAT Admin, not the Manager (we must have very different thoughts on what the Manager does on a server).

Why would the LAT manager be in charge of assignments and rights of a scripter? What should a manager do? A manager manages the server, that includes the staff and all content on it.

maximus_asinus · #69 02-16-2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why would the LAT manager be in charge of assignments and rights of a scripter? What should a manager do? A manager manages the server, that includes the staff and all content on it.

I believe a Manager controls the hirings and firings of division leads, ensures the people under him/her are doing their jobs, and various other backroom activities. I believe the LAT Admin should be incharge of projects, the Manager would have to approve them first. The Manager gives the LAT Admin enough rights to do these things (or that seems to be the case on Classic).

Motherat · #70 02-16-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I believe a Manager controls the hirings and firings of division leads, ensures the people under him/her are doing their jobs, and various other backroom activities. I believe the LAT Admin should be incharge of projects, the Manager would have to approve them first. The Manager gives the LAT Admin enough rights to do these things (or that seems to be the case on Classic).

NEDM

DustyPorViva · #71 02-16-2009, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I believe a Manager controls the hirings and firings of division leads, ensures the people under him/her are doing their jobs, and various other backroom activities. I believe the LAT Admin should be incharge of projects, the Manager would have to approve them first. The Manager gives the LAT Admin enough rights to do these things (or that seems to be the case on Classic).

Manager should be very involved in the server. This includes hirings, projects, staff and just about everything. They don't need to be able to develop, but they need to actually manage and look over everything. Just like any manager of a store would do. LAT's tend to deal strictly with levels, while developers usually look over whole projects and different areas of development.

DarkCloud_PK · #72 02-16-2009, 04:44 AM

classic really hasnt had a LAT/Scripter divide for awhile now, probably nearly as long as storm has been around. All developers, be it levels/scripts/graphics and i think there was an audio at one point, answered to one dev admin.

Bell · #73 02-16-2009, 05:53 AM

I think Dusty was there between dev admins but normally on Classic it would of been the dev Admin to give him rights. Thor was working there then but doing more GC related things I believe. Each staff division is under the direction of their Admin with Manager mostly just making sure everyone is doing their jobs and supporting them when needed.

And when all else failed they came to me as Dusty said. I'm a Bell of all trades.

xnervNATx · #74 02-16-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Thor is a hard-working developer, but he has a hard time taking criticism, and his stuff shows it.

can you exactly tell me what you mean by "his stuffs" if we get back to xaphan post you can see he made nothing but uploaded pre-made npc made months ago.

DustyPorViva · #75 02-16-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx

can you exactly tell me what you mean by "his stuffs" if we get back to xaphan post you can see he made nothing but uploaded pre-made npc made months ago.

Thor is the one doing the hit detection, the baddies and such.

Kill · #76 02-16-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx

about the hd , i think your right kill , even in ctf sumo people can hardly hit me in the water

Funny you say that, because 2 days ago during CTF X-Sumo I was able to run rings around Gemini, some other noob and Gladius, it was so incredibly easy to just dodge their hits, even though I clearly saw them hit me - I wasn't "hit". I was eventually hit out by Darkus.

Sure, this gave me an advantage but that's my point: it's no longer a game if it's THAT easy to just grab the flag and run away. Theres no longer any need of "skills".
The disadvantage of this is that it's now incredibly hard to chase and kill a flag holder, in fact it's virtually impossible without the support of 2 or more team members.

maximus_asinus · #77 02-16-2009, 08:02 PM

Yeah, I am going to agree about the HD. I was in a LMS a few days ago and I clearly hit two or three people but because they were moving away from me it didn't count as a hit. At one point I swung, missed my intended target, but another player walked into me midswing and I killed them.

Crimson2005 · #78 02-16-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Yeah, I am going to agree about the HD. I was in a LMS a few days ago and I clearly hit two or three people but because they were moving away from me it didn't count as a hit.

Yes, that is my biggest grievance about the HD. I wish they'd just use an HD that works instead of messing around with everything, I'm not really arsed about whether it is clientside or whatever. Just use something that ****ing works, this does not work. It's not a case of adjusting this either so don't think it is...

DustyPorViva · #79 02-16-2009, 08:31 PM

Apparently they were given the original numbers(used in default) for the HD that Stefan used but they didn't implement them. I could be wrong, though.

Ares · #80 02-16-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

Yes, that is my biggest grievance about the HD. I wish they'd just use an HD that works instead of messing around with everything, I'm not really arsed about whether it is clientside or whatever. Just use something that ****ing works, this does not work. It's not a case of adjusting this either so don't think it is...

time to bring in the old faithful default hd