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Old 02-08-2009, 07:12 AM
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You can use a gun over and over but once you use all your grenades they're gone for good.
Give guns a certain HP Value. The more and more use they recieve they lower their HP drops. The guns will disapear when they reach 0 and the player is forced to purchase a new weapon.
Make the guns disposable.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:19 AM
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Give guns a certain HP Value. The more and more use they recieve they lower their HP drops. The guns will disapear when they reach 0 and the player is forced to purchase a new weapon.
Make the guns disposable.
Will not fix anything, the rich will just buy more guns, the poor will be poor and without a gun.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:32 AM
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Will not fix anything, the rich will just buy more guns, the poor will be poor and without a gun.
What? if guns break the rich need to buy a new gun. This pretty much balances it out lmao. Infact, rich and poor may not exist if Era staff listen and read these threads. Everyone could be equal
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:42 AM
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What? if guns break the rich need to buy a new gun. This pretty much balances it out lmao.
Are you stupid? A poor person's gun breaks too, and they can't afford a new one. A rich guy wouldn't have much trouble buying a new gun.


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Old 02-08-2009, 10:29 PM
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Yeah, enjoying mediocrity is totally in right now
Mediocrity? Last I checked Era has one of the highest playercounts on Graal...economy screwed or not, people seem to enjoy it. Log on for 10 minutes and you'll have atleast 20 mass messages from people selling/trading items -- enjoying the economy as is.

I'd be willing to bet the playercount would drop dramatically if your plans to completely get rid of a 'realistic economy' were implemented. Some of your ideas are good, and should definitely be looked at and/or considered, but completely changing what makes Era, "Era", for a lot of people is not a good idea at all.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:59 PM
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Mediocrity? Last I checked Era has one of the highest playercounts on Graal...economy screwed or not, people seem to enjoy it. Log on for 10 minutes and you'll have atleast 20 mass messages from people selling/trading items -- enjoying the economy as is.
I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?
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I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?
e:And I was simply saying your ideas would turn mediocrity into total ****
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I just said they were enjoying it (it being mediocre). In fact, what I just quoted is pretty much exactly what I said. The economy is mediocre, yet people enjoy it. Aren't you a talented individual?
You do nothing but come on Era's threads and insult people.

If you really have nothing b etter to do go buy a dinosaur jigsaw puzzle and then try to entertain yourself.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:31 AM
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You do nothing but come on Era's threads and insult people.

If you really have nothing b etter to do go buy a dinosaur jigsaw puzzle and then try to entertain yourself.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...7&postcount=16

I came into Era's threads with not one, but three very well thought out ideas. I can't expect Era's community to read that many lines of text though, you'd probably get lost. Is that it?
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:58 AM
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A reset will be required when alterations are made to fix the economy. For sure.

It seems to me... that if people are complaining about players being rich (Is that what players are complaining about?) then heres the issue.
Its to easy to get rich. If a player becomes rich in a game like Era, they earned and deserve it. Whats the problem? Unless its not a real accomplishment becoming rich in the first place.

Maybe you could put a tax on players businesses if they make over a certain large amount/Month. That’s just making it harder next time around for the rich guy to get ridiculously rich.

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Will not fix anything, the rich will just buy more guns, the poor will be poor and without a gun.
If guns don’t stay in the game permanently the cost to purchase them will go up. You could also make it so a player is only able to keep a max of one of each gun in their inventory (including lockers and whatever else methods of storing your goods Era has). There shouldn’t be a lot of pricey, powerful weapons in the economy anyway. Make those harder to obtain.

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Are you stupid? A poor person's gun breaks too, and they can't afford a new one. A rich guy wouldn't have much trouble buying a new gun.
Make the less expensive weapons (that the poor players use) long lasting. The more expensive ones shouldn't last as long anyway in reality. The more high-tech equipment thats on a gun, the more likely chance that its going to break.

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How the heck does a player get rich? are they gonna sell broken guns?
No, the broken guns are removed from gameplay entirely.


I think its also obvious that there needs to be some sort of co-operation between the Zodiac and Era staff to effectively deal with the cross-server trading issue. Its pretty easy on Zodiac to obtain Era items...

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Old 02-08-2009, 08:01 AM
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No, the broken guns are removed from gameplay entirely.
That was sarcasm from me. :]
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:19 AM
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It seems to me... that if people are complaining about players being rich (Is that what players are complaining about?) then heres the issue. Its to easy to get rich. If a player becomes rich in a game like Era, they earned and deserve it. Whats the problem? Unless its not a real accomplishment becoming rich in the first place.
I'm just going to call you stupid and leave it at that. Not everyone can become rich, because the rich got that not through conventional means, but working their way up a once established ladder and then knocking it down (the methods they used, such as selling expensive guns and staff corruption are not open to the general public).

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If guns don’t stay in the game permanently the cost to purchase them will go up. You could also make it so a player is only able to keep one type of a gun in their inventory (including lockers and whatever else methods of storing your goods Era has). There shouldn’t be a lot of pricey, powerful weapons in the economy anyway. Make those harder to obtain.
No one's going to be able buy guns if they can't sell their high tech guns that people are afraid to buy because they break. Their strength is nullified by the fact they break faster.

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Make the less expensive weapons (that the poor players use) long lasting. The more expensive ones shouldn't last as long anyway in reality. The more high-tech equipment thats on a gun, the more likely chance that its going to break.
Eliminates value, eliminates market, eliminates trading, eliminates player interaction aside from pk'ing, eliminates community. That would lead to Era having Zone's community (or lack thereof), where you don't need to be able to talk to people.
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