Hotel Business Auction - Page 4

Andre2006 · #46 01-27-2009, 07:57 AM

I don't get it, why are the guns prices still this high? when I go out there and try to get a gun I can't get anything else then like dual k180s, I have arround 10k and it just goes down every day.

I mean when I go arround ask this like "How much is an mp5?" they will be like, 20 mil, and I don't understand, because nobody even has this much money in their bank accounts D:

Yocas · #47 01-27-2009, 03:51 PM

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I think Era is a breading ground fro communists, rofl.

How so?

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Originally Posted by Andre2006

I don't get it, why are the guns prices still this high? when I go out there and try to get a gun I can't get anything else then like dual k180s, I have arround 10k and it just goes down every day.

I mean when I go arround ask this like "How much is an mp5?" they will be like, 20 mil, and I don't understand, because nobody even has this much money in their bank accounts D:

It's already been confirmed that Era's economy is whack.

MysticX2X · #48 01-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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See above. We can't reset till we are sure the economy can control itself. We have checks and balances being put in place to ensure the reset would be the last one.

As Yocas said, it shouldn't take a year to plan it all out. I'm pretty sure with duping being prevented now that the economy won't go into the hole it was in before. Of course there should be ways the economy doesn't get over inflated.

When the good guns cost 10 million +, that's a surfire problem to be dealt with quick....

Andre2006 · #49 01-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Yeah but people trade guns for guns or items for items, what Im trying to say is, they can't technicly say the gun is 10 mil+ because nobody has that kind of money, so when im going to buy someones SD cannon and they say its 100k+ and I only got like 20k, what am I suppose to do? trade them items I dont have? D:

Yocas · #50 01-27-2009, 05:31 PM

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Yeah but people trade guns for guns or items for items ...

Or in most cases HAT(s) for entire houses.

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Idiots.

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As Yocas said, it shouldn't take a year to plan it all out. I'm pretty sure with duping being prevented now that the economy won't go into the hole it was in before. Of course there should be ways the economy doesn't get over inflated.

When the good guns cost 10 million +, that's a surfire problem to be dealt with quick....

That's what I'm saying. I thought the main cause for the whole economical disaster was because of that. Or are there other problems that I failed to mention? If so, name them please.

Andre2006 · #51 01-27-2009, 05:48 PM

Spawned stuff

Freudian_slip · #52 01-27-2009, 06:53 PM

Because Yocas, they always talk about how one person has more than them and that businesses shouldnt be owned by players even though they paid a high sum for it and have to pay fees to keep it running under Angel's system, not to mention probally a forced paycheck system. They want everyone to be "equal" by not allowing people to own things that people enjoy to own AND just be in as a scrub.

Though i agree the current system for businesses is complete crap, I think Angel's system will be fun and a lot more "fair."

I don't think however businesses like BHer or PPA should ever be sold off, they are Elitest groups and if anyone else owned them they'd bomb in a week.

Yocas · #53 01-27-2009, 07:08 PM

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Because Yocas, they always talk about how one person has more than them and that businesses shouldnt be owned by players even though they paid a high sum for it and have to pay fees to keep it running under Angel's system, not to mention probally a forced paycheck system. They want everyone to be "equal" by not allowing people to own things that people enjoy to own AND just be in as a scrub.

So basically players don't want to see others that have more than themselves and try to get their stuff taken away by complaining or making up rumors about spawning / staff interference (favortism). Yeah, that sounds about right.

I actually like working to get better stuff. And if one works hard enough to earn something I believe they should get the things that they deserve. No one gets anywhere by doing nothing. Take a look at Sales. I remember a couple of resets ago when he became one of the richest players on Era. Of course, everyone believed that he duped which was just a sign of jealousy by the public. But look at him now, he eventually became one of the main NATs for Era.

Freudian_slip · #54 01-27-2009, 07:25 PM

They arent complainging about favoritism when it is a fair system of buying and losing your business. They are complaining because they don't want to work to get the money to get a business like Sales did as you said.

I dotn see how anyone could possibly complain about Angel's system, it's fair as hell.

Yocas · #55 01-27-2009, 07:30 PM

How does Angel's system work? Did I miss it somewhere?

Freudian_slip · #56 01-27-2009, 07:36 PM

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How does Angel's system work? Did I miss it somewhere?

Basically all the businesses would be auctioned off after the reset and when they were lost. Also, the owners of the businesses have to pay bills and if they didn't pay certain bills, certain things would happen such as lights going off, it turning into a PK zone, the business being closed. Also, i'm hopeing shes putting in a forced pay check system.

Shes putting this system into Era Hotel for current Era though and eventually in all businesses for their current owners to deal with.

As long as it's not ridiclously hard or too easy to keep a business, it should be a lot more fair than the current system.

Yocas · #57 01-27-2009, 07:47 PM

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basically all the businesses would be auctioned off after the reset and when they were lost. Also, the owners of the businesses have to pay bills and if they didn't pay certain bills, certain things would happen such as lights going off, it turning into a pk zone, the business being closed. Also, i'm hopeing shes putting in a forced pay check system.

Shes putting this system into era hotel for current era though and eventually in all businesses for their current owners to deal with.

As long as it's not ridiclously hard or too easy to keep a business, it should be a lot more fair than the current system.

Oh wow, that's different. So you mean like for instance a restaurant would have bills divided into categories such as electricity, water, and rent? And if they couldn't afford one of the bills something would shut down? Sounds pretty cool.

But I'd rather the guard idea when it comes to the PK aspect though. Mainly because the businesses could still be used as an escape source. At least with the guards you'll have a chance to kill the runner before you're arrested.

That's just my opinion.

salesman · #58 01-27-2009, 07:47 PM

Auctioning off businesses played a huge role in screwing things up.

It causes players to hoard their money and wait until a business is auctioned...the problem is that out of the 20 people who are saving up for that businesses, only ONE person gets it. So you have a **** load of money in the economy.

I was one of the hoarders, and I didn't spend my money on anything until I finally got a business. I have a feeling that's how things will be if you implement this system.

I had a plan for how to release businesses, it was a little more fair, but it would require a lot more work. [it was also automated]

EDIT: I like the idea of bills like you mentioned, I'm just talking about how to release the business to the public to avoid auctions =S.

Freudian_slip · #59 01-27-2009, 07:52 PM

I personally have no problem with money hoarders considering after all the work they did, of course they should be rewarded. As long as the business doesn't make ridiciulous amounts of money and padi workers, why would it matter really?

Anywho, i'm sure Angel would love to hear your suggestions. Shes pretty flexible when it comes to ideas and listening to others.

salesman · #60 01-27-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Freudian_slip

I personally have no problem with money hoarders considering after all the work they did, of course they should be rewarded. As long as the business doesn't make ridiciulous amounts of money and padi workers, why would it matter really?

Anywho, i'm sure Angel would love to hear your suggestions. Shes pretty flexible when it comes to ideas and listening to others.

You missed the point.

20 people save up large amounts of money for an auction, but only ONE gets to spend that money. This leaves 19 more players with craploads of money that they probably wont spend until they win an auction themselves. The money coming in would be greater than the money going out, and soon, everything is worth 5 mil again.

I guess as long as the idea behind the auctions isn't to remove money from the economy, then you're not doing anything wrong according to your goals...but previous auctions were actually designed to remove money and ended up doing the opposite.