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[Yocas]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Graal isn't free.

There's Graal's problem right there. Like I said a thousand times, who the hell wants to pay for a dead game when they could play another MMORPG (I can't even call Graal an MMO because of the horrible player count) with 100x more players for FREE?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Like I said a thousand times, who the hell wants to pay for a dead game when they could play another MMORPG

Because other MMOs are usually constant grinding for that next level.

[DarkReaper0]

Wow seriously? A perfectly good argument consists of both points AND examples and by not allowing us to speak of other MMORPG's completely ruins the entire point of this argument in any sense.

Get your fill of this statement before the socialists come in and delete it for too much freedom of thought.

But yes, graal is dying because they have not perfected what they have yet want to move on, which is an extremely dumbed down argument since I can't support it with any source of evidence without being told to sit up straight by the overbearing dictatorship.

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by kia345

Because other MMOs are usually constant grinding for that next level.

You don't know how annoying and repetitive that is. They are all pretty much the same, just different artwork and characters. Even as dumb as the other free MMOs are, they still have way more players than Graal; mainly because it's free.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Yocas

You don't know how annoying and repetitive that is. They are all pretty much the same, just different artwork and characters. Even as dumb as the other free MMOs are, they still have way more players than Graal; mainly because it's free.

Had I not already played Graal, and my only choices for online gaming were Graal at its current state and FREE KOREAN GRINDAN, I would take up getting a life

[thesmoothcriminal]

Like graals gameplay is such a superior alternative to those grinding mmo's....

[kia345]

Trolls who can't troll itt

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by thesmoothcriminal

Like graals gameplay is such a superior alternative to those grinding mmo's....

I know right ...

[Darklux]

This free or not free debate is certainly no good way of approaching graals problems, as it's not free anymore since 2001 (and sometimes still had a quite good user count within the last years).

[thesmoothcriminal]

really no debate is worthwhile, stefan/Unixmad dont bother reading\responding to them

[Vima]

but I don't get some people who say:
"We all developers should work on the same server, instead of working alone."

AEON is probably the only UC server that's close of submitting a classic inspection ticket.
It will most likely be approved and get to classic tab.
But yet, after the hirings thread. We have gotten no more staff. We have a timetable that we'll finish everything and submit a ticket in the beginning(jan-feb) of next year.
But to be able to do that, or even do it faster. We need staff!

I'm just so god damn tired of the people who complain that no one works together, that everyone is working on their own projects, when they are as much stubborn as them.
Look around you, it's not only AEON who needs help.
There are a few other servers out there who is close of getting completed.

[Crono]

One of the biggest reasons why development is not the same as it used to be post-"BUYUROWNSERVER" is just that, the fact that people can buy their own servers. This spreads out all developmental workforce and has had a negative effect on our community. Think about it, back then people wanted to develop on their home servers. Now what happens? People go off, start their own fail-projects and get their friends in on it.

Instead of improving their development on their home servers and contributing to them, they instead break off and do their own little thing. You may think that its only a few people that are like this, but you'd be surprised.

Can't get hired on your home server? No problem, start your own rip off!

[Yocas]

That and people think their ideas are better than anyone elses.

"k guyz we gon make a modurn age servir wit gangz n gunz kk?"
"isn't Era already on top of that?"
"no we gon make it bett3r."

Seriously, have you seen some of these developing servers? Some of these servers make Classic look like Graal Kingdoms. Majority of these servers have NO creativitiy or imagination. Why is it that almost 80 percent of the servers end in "ia"? Vesporia, Stupia, Retardia, Thisisgettingrepetitivia. It's ridiculous how they have random 14 year old kids running entire servers, which is bound to fail within a week, and having them waste more space on the RC server list. But hey, what ever gets money in Graal 's pockets, AMIRITE?

Also, quick question. When signing up to create a server, what are the requirements? Do they have to send in a list of people who are going to work on the server? Do they have to send in an essay for the description of their server? Or do they just send in the money and they automatically get it?

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Or do they just send in the money and they automatically get it?

This.
And I've thought this seems like a flawed system (aside from generating money easily), but just can't put my finger on "why".

[Inverness]

Aeon could have gone classic years ago if they hadn't decided to try to make 4 playerworlds at once.

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by Yocas

. Why is it that almost 80 percent of the servers end in "ia"? Vesporia, Stupia, Retardia, Thisisgettingrepetitivia.

LOL!!!!! irl xD

Originally Posted by Inverness

Aeon could have gone classic years ago if they hadn't decided to try to make 4 playerworlds at once.

yaahhhh, the other day i visisted AEON and it was amazing, the only thing it needs is PLAYERS.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Majority of these servers have NO creativitiy or imagination. Why is it that almost 80 percent of the servers end in "ia"? Vesporia, Stupia, Retardia, Thisisgettingrepetitivia.

Russia, Persia, Liberia, Latvia, India, Australia, Austria, Nigeria, Lucia, Tunisia...WOW THEY'RE SO UNORIGINAL

And what does naming really have to do with creativity? All the -ia severs that come to my mind are unique.

[GarethOmni]

Graal is dying for the same reason that your local pre-school doesn't teach algebra.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by kia345

Russia, Persia, Liberia, Latvia, India, Australia, Austria, Nigeria, Lucia, Tunisia...WOW THEY'RE SO UNORIGINAL

Many nations throughout history are also known to have been against any people not of their own kind, or specifically targeting certain groups of people.
Think of all the wars and acts of genocide.

But if you think Graal creativity has to be restricted to the way of the political world... then by all means, wage war against RPGWO. Conquer them for rights to their IP. And get Zero to finish that clone he was working on.

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

Graal is dying for the same reason that your local pre-school doesn't teach algebra.

Haha. You mean the same way pre-school kids can't begin to comprehend an advanced subject (apparently not due to lack of intelligence, but rather because they lack all the other basic knowledge required), Graal players are unable to afford paying for Graal because they're too young to have $50 (or whatever Graal costs now) AND a way to pay (credit card). I guess Googi's p2p-for-kids guide wasn't good enough to draw in enough people. I know I woulda made use of it back in 2001 had it existed.

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by kia345

Russia, Persia, Liberia, Latvia, India, Australia, Austria, Nigeria, Lucia, Tunisia...WOW THEY'RE SO UNORIGINAL

And what does naming really have to do with creativity? All the -ia severs that come to my mind are unique.

Dude, I'm talking about a video game. Why must you try to relate everything I say to the real world? And yes, the name the game does indeed reflect how unique it will be. Seriously, if you can't get pass making up a name without using "ia" then you really have no imagination. I can give you some proof right now; look on the developing server list and check out any server with the ending "ia". I'm willing to bet majority of them will suck. Not counting Maloria seeing that that's long gone and dead.


i'm pretty sure this guy will look through every server just to try to prove me wrong /sigh

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Dude, I'm talking about a video game. Why must you try to relate everything I say to the real world? And yes, the name the game does indeed reflect how unique it will be. Seriously, if you can't get pass making up a name without using "ia" then you really have no imagination. I can give you some proof right now; look on the developing server list and check out any server with the ending "ia". I'm willing to bet majority of them will suck. Not counting Maloria seeing that that's long gone and dead.

What's wrong with names ending in "ia"?

The name of "Vesporia" would make a lot more sense if you knew the story behind it, I suppose.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Yocas

i'm pretty sure this guy will look through every server just to try to prove me wrong /sigh

And I'm willing to bet your argument sucks. TONS of real world places end in -ia, why can't several servers?

I think you only pointed it out because "HEY IT'LL MAKE ME LOOK EDGY AND IN THE KNOW BECAUSE I'M COMPLAINING", and now you don't have the common sense to defend it.

They end in -ia because that's a common thing in real life. Mining is on a bunch of servers why? Not because it was on Server A so Server B decided to use it, but because mining is also how we collect ores in real life. Wow, Era has cars? CLEARLY THEY RIPPED IT OFF FROM GK'S KARTS, CLEARLY! No, we have cars in real life. You know what else we have in real life? Places ending in -ia.

I don't need to prove you wrong, I need to prove you're stupid, which you can quite successfully do on your own.

I'm just going to bring up some -ia servers off the top of my head:

Delteria. Wow, here's a shocker. I can't think of any server quite like the older Delt, aside from 'classic', and the dev server I've seen sets it apart from every server I can imagine. Let's see if all the other -ia servers are like this!

Valikorlia. RP server. BUT WAIT SO IS EVERY OTHER -ia SERVER, RIGHT?

Maloria. Kinda like Zodiac only not a blatant rip off. According to you, so is Val and Delt, right?

Vesporia. Isn't this a shooting server? Like all the aforementioned servers?

Crystia. Probably a cute Zodiac rip off, but no one knows.

Wow sir, I didn't even use the serverlist for that.You probably only said that to keep me from pointing out how you were wrong because you realized how stupid you were.

So Blowcus, you tell me, how are they all the same aside from name? Because, you know, name is everything, Russia is just a rip off of Australia.

If anything, I should be ending my post in /sigh, /sigh'ing about how pitiful you are and how I feel the internet getting worse just by considering what was going through your mind while reading your own post.

[Understood]

Originally Posted by kia345

Relax, dude. You guys could argue over nothing forever.

also, -ia is a common suffix, and it's "overused" everywhere...but I think Yocas was more referring to server originality in general with his original post, and was just using the names as an example.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Not counting Maloria seeing that that's long gone and dead.

Since I took over management things have been going very well for us development wise, and we're planning on being back in business in not too long.

http://www.maloria.com/showthread.php?t=8326

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

we're planning on being back in business in not too long.

With Maloria's history in mind, this will happen the moment Zodiac either changes it's system or dies.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Crono

With Maloria's history in mind, this will happen the moment Zodiac either changes it's system or dies.

With all due respect, "Maloria's history" the past... 3 years or so, haven't had me involved at all. I'm not gonna give up the one playerworld I put Mythic on hold for

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

With all due respect, "Maloria's history" the past... 3 years or so, haven't had me involved at all. I'm not gonna give up the one playerworld I put Mythic on hold for

I'm referring to Maloria only being popular once another RPG server either removes its system (HI VALIKORLIA 2003) or dies. I'm still not over how badly Maloria ripped us off back then and pushed itself the moment Jesse got rid of the RPG system.

Hopefully your version has quality in mind, as a quality RPG server is what I've been waiting for for a while now.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Crono

I'm referring to Maloria only being popular once another RPG server either removes its system (HI VALIKORLIA 2003) or dies. I'm still not over how badly Maloria ripped us off back then and pushed itself the moment Jesse got rid of the RPG system.

Hopefully your version has quality in mind, as a quality RPG server is what I've been waiting for for a while now.

Well, if I wanted to make a ripoff of another server, I would have stayed on Zodiac

We have some pretty awesome (and original!) things planned, will post more about it once it goes from ideas to actually being implemented.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Understood

but I think Yocas was more referring to server originality in general with his original post, and was just using the names as an example.

You thought wrong.

Originally Posted by Yocas

And yes, the name the game does indeed reflect how unique it will be.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by kia345

Crystia. Probably a cute Zodiac rip off, but no one knows.

Then don't say anything about it if you don't know.

[DrakilorP2P]

Originally Posted by Chompy

Then don't say anything about it if you don't know.

Speculation.

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by kia345

I really didn't bother reading any of what you said in your wall of text. It's just going to end up like the GK thread where I stop caring while you're still *****ing like a little girl about something I said. Seriously, shut up.

Originally Posted by Understood

Relax, dude. You guys could argue over nothing forever.

also, -ia is a common suffix, and it's "overused" everywhere...but I think Yocas was more referring to server originality in general with his original post, and was just using the names as an example.

Exactly. It's as repetitive as the names of the creatures on Digimon.

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Since I took over management things have been going very well for us development wise, and we're planning on being back in business in not too long.

http://www.maloria.com/showthread.php?t=8326

I really hope you guys succeed in finishing it up this time. Zodiac shouldn't even be on the damn server list; it's a joke compared to Maloria.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Valikorlia is the only original -ia. All those other -ia's are just imitating.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Valikorlia is the only original -ia. All those other -ia's are just imitating.

What a wise statement

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Crow

What a wise statement

I originally tried to fit it in to that Eminem song, but decided Valikorlia and Eminem is a universe-ending combination.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

I originally tried to fit it in to that Eminem song, but decided Valikorlia and Eminem is a universe-ending combination.

Hm, who knows. Maybe it works. Gotta try that

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Yocas

I really didn't bother reading any of what you said in your wall of text. It's just going to end up like the GK thread where I stop caring while you're still *****ing like a little girl about something I said. Seriously, shut up.

You stop caring because you don't have anything left to say other than one liners consisting of "shut up, I don't care".

If you're not going to put any effort into the **** you say, don't say it to begin with.

[Yocas]

Val was cool before it became a RP fest. Regardless of that, the server itself is still pretty nice.

[DarkReaper0]

Valikorlia is basically a haven for the nerds of graal.

So basically the super-nerds of the nerds.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by DarkReaper0

Valikorlia is basically a haven for the nerds of graal.

So basically the super-nerds of the nerds.

What are you even trying to say?