Low playercount

DuBsTeRmAn · #1 11-15-2008, 06:15 PM

Well, Yes i think so.

The playercount starts being lower, and lower, and lower.. It is getting bored around here, Alot of lag. (especially era)

Wondering what is gonna happen now ;o

kia345 · #2 11-15-2008, 06:21 PM

The forums are 'dieing', that's for sure.

Crono · #3 11-15-2008, 06:27 PM

It's been dying for a while now.

DarkReaper0 · #4 11-15-2008, 06:34 PM

Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.

Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

cbk1994 · #5 11-15-2008, 07:48 PM

Graal is quite possibly "dieng", but I think it's got a while left. Especially once the iPhone version comes out.

Tigairius · #6 11-15-2008, 08:23 PM

No, it's not dying.

LoneAngelIbesu · #7 11-15-2008, 10:24 PM

It depends on what you consider an "alive" Graal to be. On Valikorlia, at least, the average player count has been the same for years.

Elizabeth · #8 11-15-2008, 10:24 PM

some servers are dying.
others are growing.

Vima · #9 11-15-2008, 11:12 PM

Graal is definitely losing players, according to graalstats it have lost ~130 players in 4 months.

Tigairius · #10 11-15-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vima

Graal is definitely losing players, according to graalstats it have lost ~130 players in 4 months.

Do you know what else happened 4 months ago?

School started. I don't know about your school, but my school didn't let me play Graal during class time.

Crimson2005 · #11 11-15-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

No, it's not dying.

Yes, it is. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You're either extremely deluded or being sarcastic. I hope it's the latter.

Tigairius · #12 11-15-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

Yes, it is. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You're either extremely deluded or being sarcastic. I hope it's the latter.

I'm not being sarcastic. Graal isn't dying. People just like to negatively diagnose things so they can feel like they're contributing to the conversation. They don't take time to really research. It's not dying, and I have yet to see any proof of it dying other than school starting.

xXziroXx · #13 11-15-2008, 11:30 PM

I've been saying the same as Tig from the start, and I'd be damned to stop now.

Clockwork · #14 11-15-2008, 11:31 PM

It's not dieing, the population is as regular as it ever is.

Though, Graal itself is steadily growing outdated.

Elizabeth · #15 11-15-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

School started.

exactly.
have any of you ever noticed that when summer starts, graal grows? and when school starts, it loses players?

because that's whats been happening for the past few years. or atleast as long as i've been playing.

Darlene159 · #16 11-15-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

exactly.
have any of you ever noticed that when summer starts, graal grows? and when school starts, it loses players?

because that's whats been happening for the past few years. or atleast as long as i've been playing.

Seems like this needs to be said every year for some reason.

Vima · #17 11-16-2008, 12:10 AM

YEARS ago it didn't really matter if there were school, or vacations. Graal always had a steady playercount. I dunno Tig, maybe you just hang around on GK which have always had 10-20 players online these years. So maybe you can't see that other servers on Classic tab, which used to have 100+ every day are now having 60+. Each week they're losing players. Let's take UN for example: 6 months ago, they had 120 players, according to graalstats, today roughly 50 players. HMM.. But wait, maybe we can go back this exact day last year? It had about 90 players back then, now it have ~50. Where did the 40 players go? Huh Tig? Maybe UMM MORE PEOPLZ GO 2 SCHOOL NOWDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Let's skip the bull****. :]

kia345 · #18 11-16-2008, 12:18 AM

Graal has been "losing players over the years", but that hardly constitutes as dying.

Nataxo · #19 11-16-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkReaper0

Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.

Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

lol'd

Elizabeth · #20 11-16-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkReaper0

Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.

Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

no no, the flying technology that was supposed to be realeased, what- a year ago?- will save graal! duh!

Tigairius · #21 11-16-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

a year ago?

Try 2-3 years.

Elizabeth · #22 11-16-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Try 2-3 years.

funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

Tigairius · #23 11-16-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

Well, it's really not always that simple. I'm sure they'll finish it some day.

Elizabeth · #24 11-16-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Well, it's really not always that simple. I'm sure they'll finish it some day.

i doubt that day will come.

DustyPorViva · #25 11-16-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

It was finished, for two or three years. They just didn't release it because they think players will just forget about it. Great, right?

kia345 · #26 11-16-2008, 12:48 AM

We forgot about it anyways. I don't seem to understand their motive.

It almost sounds like when Stefan said "so you don't forget about it" that he was calling us ungrateful for not cherishing the updates we do get.

Galdor · #27 11-16-2008, 12:49 AM

I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

DustyPorViva · #28 11-16-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor

I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

Because it's not really Graal... it's basically the skills server(and apparently one way more improved than what's on Graal). So really, iPhone players are enjoying flash games, not Graal.

Crono · #29 11-16-2008, 12:54 AM

Graal isn't dying, what are you talking about guys?

Elizabeth · #30 11-16-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

for not cherishing the updates we don't get.

fixed.

cbk1994 · #31 11-16-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vima

YEARS ago it didn't really matter if there were school, or vacations. Graal always had a steady playercount. I dunno Tig, maybe you just hang around on GK which have always had 10-20 players online these years. So maybe you can't see that other servers on Classic tab, which used to have 100+ every day are now having 60+. Each week they're losing players. Let's take UN for example: 6 months ago, they had 120 players, according to graalstats, today roughly 50 players. HMM.. But wait, maybe we can go back this exact day last year? It had about 90 players back then, now it have ~50. Where did the 40 players go? Huh Tig? Maybe UMM MORE PEOPLZ GO 2 SCHOOL NOWDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Let's skip the bull****. :]

You talk like GK never had 100+ players.

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Originally Posted by Galdor

I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

There is no iPhone version of Graal yet, but their games like Adrenaline Pool are counted in. The games are actually pretty decent.

Crimson2005 · #32 11-16-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

I'm not being sarcastic. Graal isn't dying. People just like to negatively diagnose things so they can feel like they're contributing to the conversation. They don't take time to really research. It's not dying, and I have yet to see any proof of it dying other than school starting.

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games

Elizabeth · #33 11-16-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

Crimson2005 · #34 11-16-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

It didn't when the Summer break started, why would it for Winter?

Elizabeth · #35 11-16-2008, 01:24 AM

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

Galdor · #36 11-16-2008, 01:27 AM

I made an ad for us to use, was a bit inspired by an ad on the swedish Greenpeace site.

Crimson2005 · #37 11-16-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

The point is that Graal will most likely continue to decline unless we have some updates on a regular basis. Even servers are not updating on a regular basis now and things are not going to fix themselves.

Elizabeth · #38 11-16-2008, 01:35 AM

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.
Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

Crono · #39 11-16-2008, 01:43 AM

Look at the graph picture I posted, it has nothing to do with school, summer, or work.

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

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Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually done.

Elizabeth · #40 11-16-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Zone:
-Bunker
-New heads, bodies.
-New guns: Plasma Chaingun, Silencer, RedRifle&BlueRifle are made buyable.
-Cakes
-Spar is to be updated soon, as said in "spar room" thread.

Unholy Nation:
-New Tileset
-Snow
-Streety is the new manager.
-Lots of hirings. (GATS, GPs, DJs)
-Unholy Radio has recently been broadcasting.

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Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually [i]done[/i

Plans are to be finished.
And when they are finished, they are updates.

Lots of plans= Lots of updates.