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Old 10-07-2008, 09:58 PM
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I disagree. Acting passively could be passed off as good intentions, but it's just laziness. Should players have a reason to complain? Not really no. "BUT THIS IS GRAAL!" I hear you cry, but that's no excuse at all; I don't play other games and feel the need to spam their support center with complaints. This is an issue that actually does needs addressing by the PWA. Sitting back and watching managers -apparently- dig themselves into holes is not helping anyone, but neither is smothering them.
Players are quick to point fingers without knowing the problem beforehand, and Graal has more problems than most games I play/have played. I was never pretending that there wasn't a problem, however for PWA to act based soley on player criticism rather than firsthand experience (can be done through observation) is just silly to me.

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I disagree with this too. Era players' server visiting habits are not really linked to staff experience at all. I played Classic BY ITSELF for years, does that mean I have no real chance of developing something of quality? I've been on Era quite a few times, and not everyone is a "pool of gangsters" and your "finding a quality developer" statement isn't native to Era and you are well aware of that.
If you ever spent a significant time on Era you would understand what I mean. I wouldn't be surprised if you were to compare the ratio of potential developers on Era to UN, Zodiac, and other classic playerworlds only to find Era's most lacking.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:08 PM
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agreed, you should make Era at least 15+ only...
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Actually, it is...When I read my posts from 13, from other forums that is, and compare them to mine here, I find a big difference.
Have you seen some of the people who are 18+ on Era?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:12 PM
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:15 PM
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Everyone that wasn't old enough would lie about there age anyways
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:18 PM
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Everyone that wasn't old enough would lie about there age anyways
Just like they did to get games like GTA4 and Conkers Bad Fur Day; or was that because they asked their mommies and daddies to buy it for them?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:32 PM
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:41 PM
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Everyone that wasn't old enough would lie about there age anyways
Thats right, although there are parents that investigate/read rules and such about the games their sons play.

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Old 10-08-2008, 02:27 AM
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:29 AM
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:16 AM
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Has Graal gotten any better like most games typically do as we got older?
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:36 AM
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Was Graal ever good? Or did we just grow older and with our age, did our expectations grow and finally we realized Graal never really was as good as we thought it was.

Possibly. Just possibly.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:32 AM
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We all know graal was good in the ole days now it's just to simple ... It reach a point where there seems to be no turning back?

at first graal use to have more than 600+ players when i first started that gave me some good feedback to why would people play this game as i got in i got to like it more and more... But now simply looking at a server at the rate of 10 - 20 players a day it gets me annoyed why would someone want to pay for a game that has 10-20 players i mean i already own an account but am speaking of with new servers and even some that has already made classics....

Right now 3 servers on the list draws closely to 100 players limit .... Reason so no one wants to play the other middle class or lower class server because the server is not over populated people love to play on servers that are very active but since we have a system that seems to only depends on money it's not going to help other playerworlds...

So its just not being fair... I mean it's not like we now can hold 2000 players we can because graal servers are now in the USA and else where...

So why not do a change in plans and make graal come back to life...
Like it use it.... am sure stefan and unixmad is not happy with seeing only 13 - 20 players on Kingdoms and then 23 - 30 players on zone?
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:42 AM
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Playercount doesn't really represent quality though.

When Graal was originally just the Classic server, it had ~200 players. Sometimes 300 on a very good day. When more servers came around the playercount started to increase. Once Graal went P2P everything went to hell and many left Graal and playercount dropped a lot. It's just been downhill from there.

Back when I played Classic I sometimes quested... not much though. Most quests were either broken or full or something of the sort. What did I do? I passed my time on Graal by either PKing, participating in throne wars, or guild wars, trash talking or some other sort of mindless thing I have absolutely no interest in anymore. A couple years passed and I got into development and never played again.

Really, Graal hasn't changed, just my interests. I hate PKing now, I abhor the trash talking crap that Graal had going back then, and I can't stand to really stay on more than a few minutes because I quickly get bored. Of course, this is just me but I think as every player grows up their interests start to change and mature. What was fun for us back then is not anymore, even though it's exactly the same.

I'm not saying Graal is still good these days, but just the fact I think it was just as bad back then as it was today, but it was free so people sucked it up and found ways to enjoy it. Simple isn't always bad, but simple without refinement is. Graal has a lot of potential, but it still, after 10 years, hasn't been unlocked. I think 2k1 was the prime of Graal, but Graal still needs so much more.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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I used to be amused by using little explosive weapons to kill bushes in Babylon's bush house.

Something like that wouldn't be fun anymore.

Probably because expectations have gone up.

There aren't really less developers, they're just more spread out, and the standard of quality for scripts has gone up.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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