Protected start base

[Ravenblade1979]

I don't get lamed. i actually just jet out but new people can't desear and those are the people who will bring in new business.

yeah its fun but frankly iricia is quite boring.

here's a typical day on iricia.

*spawn*
*die*
"wtf"
*respawn to ur base*
*die*
"damn lamers"


seriously thats what it is now...spawn base killing...no one cares about b1-b5 as long as they can get their lame kills in.

[jkool666]

Its fine the way it is.

If a team is good enough to push you back to your respawn spot then good for them.

[Desear]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

So how about if the other team steps foot anywhere on the enemies spawn base then they are warped a bit away..you could do this on both spawn bases and their surrounding land to ensure that people have time to get away. Yes people are smart enough to camp just outside but at least it gives people a fighting chance.

Originally Posted by Desear

Thats a bit too extreme, their is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed on the base? And also, If the enemy is waiting just outside their base, then its fine, its not an instant Death, and it gives them a chance to formulate an attack, and then if the Team can't beat the enemy, they die, thats Zone.

Originally Posted by doyouskate

Couldn't of said it any better. That's the whole point of Iricia/Zone in general.

Originally Posted by kia345

Beating the team =/= laming.

Read more carefully as to what he quoted, and what that person (me), quoted as well. It had nothing to do with laming the base, it had to do with fighting people outside the base, emphasis on "fighting".

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Originally Posted by kia345

This would give the other players more of a chance to fight back, to make fights take more skill. You guys should love this, making it more worth playing.

I see this more of a easier way to lame for the other team, with that Proximine idea I told you.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I don't get lamed. i actually just jet out but new people can't desear and those are the people who will bring in new business.

Key words, "I don't get lamed. I actually just jet out", this is most of the reason why Jetpack is/was purchased, I personally bought it for this exact reason, so this idea could result in a possible decline in Jetpack sales. And that another thing, "but the new people can't", why can't they? They won't buy jetpacks, but this constant laming, and dieing, push them too, just as the other "minor annoyances", like Limited Classes push them too buy P2P. And on the last note, of "new business", I can agree with you on that statement, but for the reasons I stated previously.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Desear

I see this more of a easier way to lame for the other team, with that Proximine idea I told you.

Originally Posted by kia345

Invincible until they attack, leave the base. No bounty gain, because they are not technically "playing" until they've started attacking. Laying a proxy would count as attacking, as would setting boxes

What proxies?

[Tigairius]

I agree with maybe 10 seconds of protection

[Desear]

Originally Posted by kia345

What proxies?

Originally Posted by Desear

Also, this could easily be abused with people laying down proxies, while they are invincible, then as soon as they are done, they run off the base into, their bunker, into the Dropship warper, and wait... and then after a bit, simply warp back into the battlefield, and lay more down, and repeat, this could allow a player to gain a massive bounty, and not die.

This, and you get a bounty for killing people, so that whole, "Not gaining a bounty while Idling" goes out the window.

[Crono]

The following sum up what I have in mind.

Originally Posted by Rufus

"Locking people out" is an excessive short term solution to an apparent long term issue; you could just amend it so that players can walk through the "protected" players. If levels have a high functionality for lamers, then it's more than likely that the levels need changing, not the players need locking out, and that would be down to whoever tiled the area.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I really do not see base laming as a problem.

Zone has always been like this, the stronger team will push and pull through. If noobs are being "lamed" it's up to their teammates to save them. The thing about Zone is that most of the good fighters are all friends with eachother and over the years "we've" basically developed a system where we dont actually fight eachother and save our time and ammo for the noobies and people we don't know.

The best solution, in my opinion, is to have the players also spawn directly below their bases. Afterall, the entire area is their home base right?

[luffy620]

I have no clue why this is being debated. Base laming is the main reason iricia is soo dang popular.

If your team isn't smart enough to simply push back the laming party, then they deserve to be lamed, that is how zone is. No matter how hard you try to make the game more fair, Zone players will always find a way to lame somehow else, because its fun.

Zone is not a complicated game, and there is no reason to make it complicated. If I remember, it was designed to be a arcade styled shoot-em-up game, and thats basically what I see mindless laming as, a fun arcade styled shoot-em-up. It has no purpose except to get expeirence, and to gain a highscore, just like an arcade game. Stop trying to give new kids a chance to survive past the home base, if they will just be killed when they get outside of it.

[Admins]

We can probably make some testing to see what amount of time is good. I guess the best is to give the extended protection only to new players (exp < 4000).

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Programmer

The point of the thread here was to enable it for new players. If they don't like the game and get lamed every time they try to leave a base, they're not going to buy anything.

theyre not going to buy anything anyways because of the price increase.

plus theres other servers to play. its not like zones their ONLY choice

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

theyre not going to buy anything anyways because of the price increase.

plus theres other servers to play. its not like zones their ONLY choice

Zone is their flagship server, they have to try to tend to it else it'll end up like GK (which it had until Stefan started to give it updates).

[Elizabeth]

annd, theres other maps on zone, there isnt just iricia

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

annd, theres other maps on zone, there isnt just iricia

This map has been the most popular since Zone was re-released. It basically is Zone.

[Elizabeth]

just because one is popular doesnt mean the others dont exist

[Xterminator]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

just because one is popular doesnt mean the others dont exist

Barly..Alpha-Spar there's about 5 people who are usually there talking or sparring. Guild Wars and Deathmatch are somewhere between 0-7 players unless there's Events. The rest are dead.