Renew subscription?

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Let's also take this into account for the purpose of the poll:

1. Many people who quit GK have quit Graal entirely because GK was the main server they played. (so therefore they didn't vote, and their vote would be "No)
2. There's not really any trials on GK saying "I wish I had a gold account to play GK"
3. There's not really anyone on classic servers saying "Paying (game currency) for gold subscription"
(#'s 2 and 3 would balance out #1 by adding more "yes" votes, sort of, if there were people who fit those circumstances, but there's not)

When G2k1 was succeeding, many players (usually teens or younger ones who don't have money or lack access to credit cards) would beg for someone to upgrade/pay for their subscription, mainly to play G2k1. Such was also somewhat true for G2k2's successful times. Now this is not the case at all. Nobody wants to play Graal Kingdoms.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

Now this is not the case at all. Nobody wants to play Graal Kingdoms *in it's current state.

It's apparent to everyone other than Stefan that Gk needs saving.

[grawlgamer]

The thing is, if games like World of Warcraft "needed saving" there is no problem, because there will be a constant influx of new players, which for Graal's publicity... is not the case.
































bump..

[xAzerothx]

Talking about successful MMOs is illegal on the graal forums. /ban

[Stephen]

It's sort of worthless to resort to armchair criticism and speaks loads about the parties involved.

If you want change stop running your gums and get involved.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It's sort of worthless to resort to armchair criticism and speaks loads about the parties involved.

If you want change stop running your gums and get involved.

We have a right to complain, having paid for the game.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

We have a right to complain, having paid for the game.

Right, but I think his point is that nothing will be changed by you sitting around complaining.

Only you can prevent GK fires. *points at Chris*

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

Right, but I think his point is that nothing will be changed by you sitting around complaining.

Only you can prevent GK fires. *points at Chris*

I'm not going to pay to fix GK.

I've offered to develop for them, but there is so little they let people do. THEN they tell us WE need to make things.

[Elizabeth]

i liked gk when it was actually active, its just boring now, no one ever goes on, therefore i left it.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I'm not going to pay to fix GK.

I've offered to develop for them, but there is so little they let people do. THEN they tell us WE need to make things.

One day, I'm going to open a restaurant.

After a while, I'll start slacking off and serving the food under poor conditions (dirty, poorly prepped, cold when it's supposed to be hott, warm when it's supposed to be cold, out of date menu, expired meat, etc) . When people complain, I'll tell them they should make their own food. I'll even leave the kitchen open for customers to use. But they'll still have to pay regular price since they're using my supplies.

It seems to work well with Cyberjouers, so I have no reason to believe my business should fail.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It's sort of worthless to resort to armchair criticism and speaks loads about the parties involved.

If you want change stop running your gums and get involved.

So if you get bad software by microsoft, you don't expect patches by them, but try to code them yourself, as you want to get involved?

Who subscribes shouldn't code his own patches.. as he pays others for doing exactly this work.
Of course if you like to do it, do it, but don't apply that on other people.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Darklux

So if you get bad software by microsoft, you don't expect patches by them, but try to code them yourself, as you want to get involved?

Who subscribes shouldn't code his own patches.. as he pays others for doing exactly this work.
Of course if you like to do it, do it, but don't apply that on other people.

Part of this games unique content is the ability to develop. Otherwise you pay for access to the worls people and Graal Online make.

I'm not sure why you were try to draw that very poor parallel - especially in reference to me. I've been developing, and making an effort to do it actively.


I'm sort of getting tired of poorly thought out responses and will perhaps revert to being a **** head - at least for the personal satisfaction.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

One day, I'm going to open a restaurant.

After a while, I'll start slacking off and serving the food under poor conditions (dirty, poorly prepped, cold when it's supposed to be hott, warm when it's supposed to be cold, out of date menu, expired meat, etc) . When people complain, I'll tell them they should make their own food. I'll even leave the kitchen open for customers to use. But they'll still have to pay regular price since they're using my supplies.

It seems to work well with Cyberjouers, so I have no reason to believe my business should fail.

Exactly

[Ryyan]

im most likely resubscribing.
you guys are all saying that if nothing happens soon then no. well the problem with that is if you all would subscribe again, then something would happen and there would be a decent population on GK again. If you sit there and say not unless something happens, what are you doing to help?

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

well the problem with that is if you all would subscribe again, then something would happen and there would be a decent population on GK again.

How do you know this would happen?


WARNING: SPOILER

You don't. Because it most likely won't.

The administration has already shown us evidence leading to this conclusion.

Now is the step where we say "Maybe if we don't re-subscribe they'll notice things are bad and fix GK." Personally, I think this is also unlikely to fix things. They'll probably just let it rot. For now, the only possible solution I see is either (a) them giving rights to Stephen and Tig- whatever rights are limiting them from doing a proper revival of GK, or (b) the current administration just does it themselves. The problem with (b) is that we already know it's unlikely to happen, and even if it does, we can't expect a very good job to be done- again, a conclusion drawn from their own actions of the past. At least with Tig and Stephen, regardless of debate, we don't really have any concrete evidence that they would fail, since they havn't had a chance to do so yet- the current administration has. And this isn't limited to Tig and Stephen- it can go for anyone who would like to work on GK but obviously can't do to limitations, but right now most talk seems to be surrounding those two fellas over thar.