Utopia

[mYg0tHaMpStEr]

Well, some of you may be wondering what's going on with Utopia.

Truth is, I don't play graal very much anymore.

Thus, is why I appointed Chris to Co-Manager to keep on developing the server.

I will still come on and see progress every once in a while but really, I probably wont be spending an assload of time on it, like I used to.

-O

[Pimmeh]

I think were all in terrible, terrible pain

[xAzerothx]

Totally forgot about Utopia.

[cbk1994]

Now I'm in charge of Utopia's development?

I'm just sittin' here, lollin'. Maybe I can get something done ...

[Clockwork]

That's sad chris. D:

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

That's sad chris. D:

That I'm going to get some **** done?

I don't see how that's sad ...

[Clockwork]

No, that in the end you still became co-manager.

That's sad. XD

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

No, that in the end you still became co-manager.

That's sad. XD

Haha, that's true.

[Imperialistic]

Ohh man, lets whine that Chris got Co-Manager on a UC server!

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

Ohh man, lets whine that Chris got Co-Manager on a UC server!

It was more of a comment that, as people see it, Ork has been destroying Utopia, I'm the only one who actually did things on it, and now people are saying that I should be the owner.

Not Aeko, but I've talked to other people. But, I really don't care about being co-manager; Ork would not fire me anyway.

[Imperialistic]

Hmm, lets extend the drama more

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

Hmm, lets extend the drama more

If you think this is drama, you obviously haven't been hanging out on UC servers much

[Pimmeh]

I wonder if anyone grasped my slight tinge of sarcasm?
Srsly though, Chris you could do much better then an Era Clone -_-

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

I wonder if anyone grasped my slight tinge of sarcasm?
Srsly though, Chris you could do much better then an Era Clone -_-

I plan to remake Utopia from the ground up. Hopefully at the end I will have a fine project which isn't an Era clone.

[grawlgamer]

Maybe make a Communist-USSR server, like a fight against communism with an underground group?

[mYg0tHaMpStEr]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I plan to remake Utopia from the ground up. Hopefully at the end I will have a fine project which isn't an Era clone.

Knock yourself out.

[Scrimps]

Utopia Must Die!

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

Knock yourself out.

I planned on talking to you first, but I guess I will go ahead

Originally Posted by Scrimps

Utopia Must Die!

Seriously, dude. Just stop.

[Ryyan]

Hopefully you remove era's ****. last time i was on there were era sounds and recolors all over. and i was jailed for pking.




good luck unscrewing a screwed server.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

Hopefully you remove era's ****. last time i was on there were era sounds and recolors all over. and i was jailed for pking.




good luck unscrewing a screwed server.

What do you mean unscrewing it?

I'm completely remaking it.

Utopia 2.0

One of the few things in common is the name, and some graphics.

[Ryyan]

the fact that the staff there is abusive as **** and dont know what they're doing

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

the fact that the staff there is abusive as **** and dont know what they're doing

Please get the hell out of this thread if you're going to spam ...

If you'd have READ the thread, than you would have known that I am completely remaking Utopia: there will be no abusive staff, I will likely be the only scripter as I work best alone (and there are few decent scripters willing to work on UC servers) ... I will also be the "Manager" meaning in charge of the development. Ork will still be the owner of course, meaning that he oversees things, but as far as I know I will be the one in charge of the development.

Hopefully I can find a team of staff that are non-abusive (aka LATs that don't need change attributes )

[Ryyan]

good luck getting staff that don't ask for rights. I'm a GANI Admin, i know how people are when they get their boots.

[xAzerothx]

So you remake all of Utopia then this Ork fellow comes and fires you once its successful, genius.

[Ryyan]

hate to admit it but that sounds true.
he would take credit too.

[LaughingMan]

That would technically be a playerworld scam. It's been recorded here that chris is in charge of the server. If suddenly the guy that made everything gets fired when the going is good. It'll raise a red flag.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

good luck getting staff that don't ask for rights. I'm a GANI Admin, i know how people are when they get their boots.

What do you mean, boots?

I won't have staff boots, they only lead to abuse. If anything, they'll be for ETs when they are hosting something where they need them (not likely).

Originally Posted by xAzerothx

So you remake all of Utopia then this Ork fellow comes and fires you once its successful, genius.

No, believe me. If there's one person I trust would NEVER fire me, it's Ork (after Jave, of course).

Originally Posted by Ryyan

hate to admit it but that sounds true.
he would take credit too.

No, he wouldn't. Ork bans and abuses like nobodies business (sorry if you're reading this Ork!), but he would not fire me.

Originally Posted by LaughingMan

That would technically be a playerworld scam. It's been recorded here that chris is in charge of the server. If suddenly the guy that made everything gets fired when the going is good. It'll raise a red flag.

Yes, but hardly anyone reads the forums. PLUS, as PWA have stated, it'd be my own damn fault.


Update for Utopia (May 27, 2008):
-GUI is almost completed. Completely redesigned to incorporate message system and chat system.
-Fishing system almost completed.
-HP/Killing system completed.
-Time system (to be used for restocking) completed.

I will be looking for LATs and possibly GATs in the near future! Until this time, no screenshots will be posted.

[DustyPorViva]

After reading this idea I had a sudden idea for staff power(not particularly for this server):
Have two modes -- on duty and off duty.

-On duty disables all item usage(basically, no ability to fight). It also makes you invincible, non-blocking, and disables your GUI. On the other hand, it enables your staff tools and tag.
-Off duty would... well basically remove your tag and staff tools, and treat you like a regular player, and also return you to the last position you enabled your On Duty.

Of course, there are a lot of systems like this on servers, but none really get too extensive, and still allow them to attack and stuf... I think a system like this would remove really any ability to abuse powers.

[Xterminator]

That can still lead to abuse but enabling and disabling it after shooting someone or something.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

After reading this idea I had a sudden idea for staff power(not particularly for this server):
Have two modes -- on duty and off duty.

-On duty disables all item usage(basically, no ability to fight). It also makes you invincible, non-blocking, and disables your GUI. On the other hand, it enables your staff tools and tag.
-Off duty would... well basically remove your tag and staff tools, and treat you like a regular player, and also return you to the last position you enabled your On Duty.

Of course, there are a lot of systems like this on servers, but none really get too extensive, and still allow them to attack and stuf... I think a system like this would remove really any ability to abuse powers.

We had something like this on Utopia; it doesn't work at all. The only way to prevent staff abuse is for the staff to not abuse.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Xterminator

That can still lead to abuse but enabling and disabling it after shooting someone or something.

That's why you clearly do some sort of check. A timer would be sufficient.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by xAzerothx

So you remake all of Utopia then this Ork fellow comes and fires you once its successful, genius.

In addition to what I said (bad request when trying to edit ), I haven't been able to contact Ork. I seriously haven't talked to him for over two weeks.

Sad because I'd like to discuss some ideas and get some input with him to get permission for some new ideas.

[Veteranspy]

Sounds interesting enough. I will lat for you and only you. I will not listen to ork. But what you are talking about Chris sounds promising. So if you ever decide to hire lats then hire me sometime. And give me a heads up because I have been busy in rl to pay attention to little posts :P

[Codein]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

hate to admit it but that sounds true.
he would take credit too.

I think you're just pissed off because you got banned for pking xD

I support Chris and his plans for a new Utopia.

[Ryyan]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

No, believe me. If there's one person I trust would NEVER fire me, it's Ork (after Jave, of course).

No, he wouldn't. Ork bans and abuses like nobodies business (sorry if you're reading this Ork!), but he would not fire me.

Believe me, you don't know who your talking about.
I thought that for a long time back when i worked there.. then he banned me for telling him to do his own personal work.

[Veteranspy]

Ork does have a bit of an anger problem. But it doesn't mean anything except that he is a bad manager. Get off his back like I have and maybe he might be a better person. And Ryyan since you are GFX Admin or w/e on Aeon then why you worried about a UC server?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Ryyan

Believe me, you don't know who your talking about.
I thought that for a long time back when i worked there.. then he banned me for telling him to do his own personal work.

You don't realize that I've worked with Ork for over five years and we've never had problems.

Trust me, Ork would not take control of it/fire me.

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

Ork does have a bit of an anger problem. But it doesn't mean anything except that he is a bad manager. Get off his back like I have and maybe he might be a better person. And Ryyan since you are GFX Admin or w/e on Aeon then why you worried about a UC server?

Hopefully Ork won't come out and ruin it once I finish it

I trust he wont.

[Veteranspy]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Hopefully Ork won't come out and ruin it once I finish it
I trust he wont.

---Not relevant to what I said but ok XD

[mYg0tHaMpStEr]

Time for Papa Orks little imput here.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

In addition to what I said (bad request when trying to edit ), I haven't been able to contact Ork. I seriously haven't talked to him for over two weeks.

Sad because I'd like to discuss some ideas and get some input with him to get permission for some new ideas.

Sorry about that Chris. :[ IM was doing it's own little **** ****s and I couldn't get on for not 30 seconds, really. I just IM'ed you now, but you seem to be away.

And, it's your server, do whatever the hell you want with it.

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

Sounds interesting enough. I will lat for you and only you. I will not listen to ork. But what you are talking about Chris sounds promising. So if you ever decide to hire lats then hire me sometime. And give me a heads up because I have been busy in rl to pay attention to little posts :P

Interesting offer. However, I forgot to post some Regulations for Chris, which are as follows (Straight from Server Ops):

##; Alright Chris, here's the deal.
##; You may continue to Run and Own Utopia and **** under a
##; Few conditions.
##;
##; 1) Katono or Veteranspy never EVER work here.
##; 2) You never EVER give out any of Utopia's Content.
##; 3) You hire a decent Dev team to keep the server running.
##; 4) You keep me updated as much as you can.
##; 5) You do a hell of a lot better job than I did as Manager.
##;
##; Follow these and you can keep her.
##;
##; -Ork


Sorry, bud.

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

Ork does have a bit of an anger problem. But it doesn't mean anything except that he is a bad manager. Get off his back like I have and maybe he might be a better person. And Ryyan since you are GFX Admin or w/e on Aeon then why you worried about a UC server?

I agree with the Anger and the Manager problem. But, honestly, being a manager for that **** was incredibly stressful. It's not easy to deal with a **** staff team and a bunch of players at the same time.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

You don't realize that I've worked with Ork for over five years and we've never had problems.

Trust me, Ork would not take control of it/fire me.


Hopefully Ork won't come out and ruin it once I finish it

I trust he wont.

I wont Chris. I know you care about Utopia. I only want what's best for it. Good luck.


Anyway, I'm off to my "happy place". I'll try to be a bit more active on IM, Christopher.

-O

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

##; 1) Katono or Veteranspy never EVER work here.

Fine, but I've unbanned them. They can still play it, right?

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

##; 2) You never EVER give out any of Utopia's Content.

Yes, because I would give away my own work

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

##; 3) You hire a decent Dev team to keep the server running.

Eventually, once I get the basic systems made.

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

##; 4) You keep me updated as much as you can.

If you're on AIM I will.

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

##; 5) You do a hell of a lot better job than I did as Manager.

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