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[Desear]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should Stephen do it just to help? I'm sure they paid someone to make the new site, why should Stephen do it just to help because he's part of the community?

Because he wants to help the players? Or the community doesn't matter enough to him, he needs some kind of material reward?

Originally Posted by Programmer

As I said, I volunteer to redesign the website if need be, just say the word and give me ideas and if I have Stefan/Unixmad's permission, I'll make a new one with better design and navigation.

Anyway, I really think the community would appreciate that, I think they mostly agree they want to stick with Graal's Green Color for the homepage, and maybe use one of the old main pages for the site, thats in the first post, just add the new playerworlds, and such. Then post some screen-shots, and see what everyone thinks, heck might even attract their attention.

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by Desear

Anyway, I really think the community would appreciate that, I think they mostly agree they want to stick with Graal's Green Color for the homepage, and maybe use one of the old main pages for the site, thats in the first post, just add the new playerworlds, and such. Then post some screen-shots, and see what everyone thinks, heck might even attract their attention.

I just require access to the FTP / MySQL server for me to create a new website, and knowing Stefan and Unixmad, they won't let me near it -.-'

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Desear

Because he wants to help the players? Or the community doesn't matter enough to him, he needs some kind of material reward?

And? Stefan and Unix shouldn't have to rely on everyone 'just helping the community'. If someone else is getting paid for the same services, it doesn't seem wrong that Stephan ask for compensation as well.

[Desear]

Originally Posted by Programmer

I just require access to the FTP / MySQL server for me to create a new website, and knowing Stefan and Unixmad, they won't let me near it -.-'

I see, thought you were going to do a rough example of what you could make it, with a freewebs service temporarily, then ask for access. Or would that limit you too much?

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

And? Stefan and Unix shouldn't have to rely on everyone 'just helping the community'. If someone else is getting paid for the same services, it doesn't seem wrong that Stephan ask for compensation as well.

Well, then let him ask, I'm saying what does it really amount to, why does he need payment? Because he doesn't really care about just doing it for the community, he thinks he deserves some higher reward then that. Anyway, since Programmer seems to be attempting to do it for free, it doesn't really matter.

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by Desear

I see, thought you were going to do a rough example of what you could make it, with a freewebs service temporarily, then ask for access. Or would that limit you too much?

I cannot code my website on Freewebs due to the lack of PHP and MySQL support. I could create a subdomain of sympgraal.com, but I need to make sure this will actually be used before I do anything :|