What happened

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It's not a matter of sticking with the old, Stefan. People's taste are maturing - and I don't mean your current players... I mean youth as a WHOLE. Just look at how popular the iPod is, the sleek interface, simplicity, and well designed shell are what sell it - otherwise, it's just a MP3 player. I'm sure there are a lot more colorful or youthful MP3 players out there.

Besides, there's a fantastic saying... "Keep It Simple, Stupid" or "K.I.S.S." - the webpage doesn't have to be a ajax fest or flash feast. Just a NICE design that's SIMPLISTIC and easy to use in it's nature. I'm not saying you need a new webpage now - but you could let me work on your GUI stuff. I'd whip this ***** into shape in no time and I know that for a fact.

I know you are waiting for him to acknowledge you, and probably offer you some kind of reward - but if it were me I'd just do it, show it off, and let it convince him instead of waiting.

We're always waiting.

I'm sick of waiting.

GO. DO.

But hey, you might not be motivated. I dunno. I couldn't keep people interested in a teamspeak server to collaborate on, because they didn't care about collaborating.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

I know you are waiting for him to acknowledge you, and probably offer you some kind of reward - but if it were me I'd just do it, show it off, and let it convince him instead of waiting.

We're always waiting.

I'm sick of waiting.

GO. DO.

But hey, you might not be motivated. I dunno. I couldn't keep people interested in a teamspeak server to collaborate on, because they didn't care about collaborating.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Yea right, the GermanKr3w takes everything at face value. "Oh, you made us a webpage? Fantastic. What - you did it as part of an ongoing relationship with our business? Nonsense, what's that now? You're disgruntled? WE'LL SEE WHO HAS THE LAST LAUGH"

It's nonsense.

Please don't patronize me. Thanks.

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Stephen

"Oh, you made us a webpage? Fantastic. What - you did it as part of an ongoing relationship with our business?

So what, you want partner or something?

It's a website, make it to help everybody - if you WANT to.
If you don't want to, for whatever reason, then don't.

But, don't you think it's possible if you made a killer website they would use it once they see it? Even if they did pay (not confirming, just hypothetically) for the current site, don't you think they would use a better one if all they had to do with hand out some Gold time?

I mean, come on, how many games would you even know where to SEND a killer website for their review? I don't know if you're a serious web developer, but a live company site would be a good addition to any portfolio. It's not like this is even a difficult job.

Everybody has a chance to change Graal, and everybody is waiting for everybody else to do it. If I could make websites, I would make one for Graal. I just suck at making websites.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

So what, you want partner or something?

Don't be a clod.

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

But, don't you think it's possible if you made a killer website they would use it once they see it? Even if they did pay (not confirming, just hypothetically) for the current site, don't you think they would use a better one if all they had to do with hand out some Gold time?

They wouldn't pay. But that's not really important - do you know much about webdesign? This wouldn't be easy... you couldn't just make it and give it to them. It would have to interface with a lot of (I assume) PHP & MySQL... or some sort of database language, whatever they're using.

I could make a design but it would be meaningless to them and I'm really not willing to waste my efforts. I put a lot of effort into great ideas and great development when I was younger only to watch it go unused, and I'm no longer willing to do that.

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

I mean, come on, how many games would you even know where to SEND a killer website for their review? I don't know if you're a serious web developer, but a live company site would be a good addition to any portfolio. It's not like this is even a difficult job.

I have a job I intend to keep for a long time, so my portfolio is strictly hobby.

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Everybody has a chance to change Graal, and everybody is waiting for everybody else to do it. If I could make websites, I would make one for Graal. I just suck at making websites.

I thought you were a PWA?

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

It's a website, make it to help everybody - if you WANT to.
If you don't want to, for whatever reason, then don't.

I'm not really sure if this is worth commenting on - but wtf, who can't figure that out on their own? lol