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Old 03-23-2008, 06:00 PM
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Don't blame bjorn. He's too busy IRL to know if anything was going to happen.
If he's the admin, he doesn't get the option of saying "I'm busy". It's his job to at least show up on Gk and say "We're working on something" to keep us enticed. If he can't even do that, we need someone else, someone willing to not just show up, but show up actively and give the appearance of enjoying what they're doing.

As for Stefan, it's quite clear he doesn't care about Gk. Kingdoms isn't making them money.

Spoiler: It's not making money because he's not making content.
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Spoiler: It's not making money because he's not making content.
Arbitrarily adding content probably isn't going to help attract new players, and adding content for old players definitely isn't going to help attract new players.
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Arbitrarily adding content probably isn't going to help attract new players, and adding content for old players definitely isn't going to help attract new players.
Needs more advertisement, needs more things to do...Basically a little bit of everything.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:08 PM
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Arbitrarily adding content probably isn't going to help attract new players, and adding content for old players definitely isn't going to help attract new players.
Look how often Zone updates. Look at the content. Stefan cares about Zone, it gets updates and has been made with the player's enjoyment in mind. Whereas Gk doesn't have any of that flair that would attract people. There's nothing to amount to because we've seen all Gk has to offer after about a month. If they brought in new stuff, anything, at least a decent monthly update, worked on quests, worked on a way to change the game, there would be a reason for someone to log on and say "Hey, here's something new and exciting" rather than "Hey an npc has been re-released after 4 months, let's use it and then get bored".
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:16 PM
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There's nothing to amount to because we've seen all Gk has to offer after about a month.
Do you really think players are exhausting all of GK's content? Do you have any idea how tiny the percentage is of players who actually ever become strong enough to do a brutal or immense map is?

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If they brought in new stuff, anything, at least a decent monthly update, worked on quests, worked on a way to change the game, there would be a reason for someone to log on and say "Hey, here's something new and exciting" rather than "Hey an npc has been re-released after 4 months, let's use it and then get bored".
Actually, it would be like "Hey, here's something new and exciting, let's do it for a day and then get bored".
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:22 PM
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Do you really think players are exhausting all of GK's content? Do you have any idea how tiny the percentage is of players who actually ever become strong enough to do a brutal or immense map is?
"Ocool, randomly generated maps that have monsters that are, surprise surprise, the same as the ones in every other map like this! Let's kill them and level up, which will in no way change the game play!"

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"Ocool, randomly generated maps that have monsters that are, surprise surprise, the same as the ones in every other map like this! Let's kill them and level up, which will in no way change the game play!"
Put it in those terms if you want, but there are grinding games out there that pull in huge numbers of players. The point wasn't that maps are "good" content (though I should point out that for the purpose of what we're talking about "good" is defined solely by ability to attract players, not by how "fun" you deem it to be) but merely that the idea that the problem isn't that Graal Kingdoms doesn't have enough content and that players are running out of content to play. If there's a content problem, it's that GK has the wrong content, and adding more of the wrong content isn't going to help. I also wanted to point out to people who think that adding stronger monsters is a solution that stronger monsters is something that wouldn't affect very many players.

By the way, maps were pretty popular for a pretty long time and the first few times I did brutals/immenses, they were quite a challenge.

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If they brought in new stuff, anything, at least a decent monthly update, worked on quests, worked on a way to change the game
Are you trying to say that interest in updates only lasting for a few days to a week at most isn't a problem if they happen once a month?

As for quests, traditional quests are a huge waste of development time and largely getting rid of them was one of the best moves GK, Zone, Zodiac, etc. have made. Traditional quests take a huge amount of time to develop and players play them for a few hours at most.

"Changing the game" is something that would actually work, but requires knowing exactly what way of changing it is going to be effective.
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