Tired of Summoned Monsters - Page 2

Darklux · #41 03-02-2008, 03:46 PM

Monster laming is a bug as people in WMode can attack PModers.
That has to be fixed, as PMode is a mode where you cant and most likely dont want to be attacked.

Stephen · #42 03-02-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

K. Weak players shouldn't be defended, but idling USD'rs dias should be. Damn Stephen, you blow me away.

How does it feel talking out of your ass? I've never tried it, so maybe you can fill me in on it?

"USD'rs"? there's like... 2 on GK right now out of the 30 active players. That's 6.6 percent of the GK population. If you can't deal with 7 percent having more money than you on a video game, don't take it out on the gaming system. Start a blog, or something.

So let's break this down - we have newbs who are weak but atleast ATTENDING their desktop... so if monsters attack they can scream, "HONOES" and run. Where as these obviously evil "USD'rs" that idle in trade... I guess their paypal account is going to run them around and kill the monsters? Maybe it's their bank account? Hell, maybe it's their wallet?

What are you talking about, mang? If someone is AFK they're at more risk of being madpwned than some newb - who, once again, can atleast run. So yea, I guess I can say the same to you...

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Basic fix to this: If you plan on being afk logoff. Plain and simple.

Other then that stop complaining. Knowing that this happens your basically inviting people to lame you.

Entirely true - and I don't see why we should rape and pillage the game's engine anymore than our GermanKr3w comrades already have.

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Monster laming is a bug as people in WMode can attack PModers.
That has to be fixed, as PMode is a mode where you cant and most likely dont want to be attacked.

I'm tempted to post a LOLcat with "I see what you did there".

If I start calling you a bug, Darklux, will your friends ban you? If so, let me know - I'm very interested in pursuing this topic.

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Originally Posted by kia345

No Raven, that won't work, as it's a threat to more than just idlers.

No, it's not a threat to ANYONE BUT the idlers. If anything, it's simply a inconvenience to everyone BUT the idlers.

Darklux · #43 03-02-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Basic fix to this: If you plan on being afk logoff. Plain and simple.

Other then that stop complaining. Knowing that this happens your basically inviting people to lame you.

Plainly wrong.
Peaceful Mode means you can't be attacked.
If you can be, its just and plainly: bugged!

Stephen · #44 03-02-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Plainly wrong.
Peaceful Mode means you can't be attacked.
If you can be, its just and plainly: bugged!

Yes, cannot be attacked by players - not monsters.

Otherwise you can hop on peaceful mode and run into a dungeon - then when you cry to Stefan I'll laugh as he says "x-x?".

I can see MAYBE making it so the monsters don't attach in a SAFETY ZONE... but don't remove it entirely. Even then you're just making the trades more of a playground than it already is.

Darklux · #45 03-02-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes, cannot be attacked by players - not monsters.

Otherwise you can hop on peaceful mode and run into a dungeon - then when you cry to Stefan I'll laugh as he says "x-x?".

I can see MAYBE making it so the monsters don't attach in a SAFETY ZONE... but don't remove it entirely. Even then you're just making the trades more of a playground than it already is.

Those arent monsters - as monsters pop up in dungeons.
Those are player controlled puppets, it has nothing to do with dungeons, or do you think that the Trade Tables are a Dungeon?!

Stephen · #46 03-02-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Those arent monsters - as monsters pop up in dungeons.
Those are player controlled puppets, it has nothing to do with dungeons, or do you think that the Trade Tables are a Dungeon?!

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I can see MAYBE making it so the monsters don't attach in a SAFETY ZONE... but don't remove it entirely. Even then you're just making the trades more of a playground than it already is.

That's clearly what I think.

Ravenblade1979 · #47 03-02-2008, 05:17 PM

Pmode....bmode doesn't seem to matter to monsters...either way they attack you in game so why would you want to take that realism away?

Look just don't idle plain and simple. Knowing people do this should kick start something in your brain thats saying "best not to idle here too long. I might get killed by summoned or charmed monsters. I think I will logoff".

cbk1994 · #48 03-02-2008, 05:21 PM

I SUBMIT CODE X.X

PHP Code:


			
function canAttack()
{
  if ( this.level.isPeaceful == true )
  {
    return false; // level is peaceful
  }
  return true; // can attack :)
}

LOOK LIKE 8 LINES, COULD BE MADE TO LIKE 3 x.x

STOP BEING LAZY BJORN

Darklux · #49 03-02-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Pmode....bmode doesn't seem to matter to monsters...either way they attack you in game so why would you want to take that realism away?

Look just don't idle plain and simple. Knowing people do this should kick start something in your brain thats saying "best not to idle here too long. I might get killed by summoned or charmed monsters. I think I will logoff".

Better we have idling players than no players at all :O

BigBear3 · #50 03-02-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

I SUBMIT CODE X.X

PHP Code:


			
function canAttack()

{

  if ( this.level.isPeaceful == true )

  {

    return false; // level is peaceful

  }

  return true; // can attack :)

}

LOOK LIKE 8 LINES, COULD BE MADE TO LIKE 3 x.x

STOP BEING LAZY BJORN

Maybe he's busy. People need to stop blaming Bjorn for everything.

cbk1994 · #51 03-02-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

Maybe he's busy. People need to stop blaming Bjorn for everything.

Like it's been said, if you're too busy to do your duties, pass them on to someone else.

Ravenblade1979 · #52 03-03-2008, 12:58 AM

Too busy..well he has had irl stuff from what I heard...but even when he didn't there was a period of time that we barely seen him.

dNeonb · #53 03-03-2008, 05:36 PM

Well Raven, because I can mostly be found on Debug and not on GK.

Actually nice 8 lines but it won't work that way for GK. The monsters just use the mudattack but if a hit counts or not is not defined in the attacking part of the monster. In the past impossible to change, but now since we had some change and the hitting management was moved a little outside the mudlib it is possible to edit if a hit counts in a centerain level for example.

Although this does not solve some problem with summened monsters being able to kill players BECAUSE if a monster was summoned and then the fluete sound is played the monster turns into an usual monster, acting like every other one. So it might only be possible to avoid players from getting killed by monsters in special levels like trade in general but not in specially by summoned ones.

Ravenblade1979 · #54 03-03-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Well Raven, because I can mostly be found on Debug and not on GK.

Actually nice 8 lines but it won't work that way for GK. The monsters just use the mudattack but if a hit counts or not is not defined in the attacking part of the monster. In the past impossible to change, but now since we had some change and the hitting management was moved a little outside the mudlib it is possible to edit if a hit counts in a centerain level for example.

Although this does not solve some problem with summened monsters being able to kill players BECAUSE if a monster was summoned and then the fluete sound is played the monster turns into an usual monster, acting like every other one. So it might only be possible to avoid players from getting killed by monsters in special levels like trade in general but not in specially by summoned ones.

So in other words you might be able to fix them one way and not in another.

I think people should just stop idling period. Makes stuff easier on them in the short and long term.

xAzerothx · #55 03-03-2008, 07:40 PM

If you idle you should know what might happen to you...and if this has happened before why do people still idle in trade?

Pimmeh · #56 03-03-2008, 08:36 PM

Erm, if you idle it mostly means that theres nothing else to do!

Edit:
Has anyone ever thought of mini-games? Stuff like bombermad on GK?

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #57 03-03-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Well Raven, because I can mostly be found on Debug and not on GK.

Actually nice 8 lines but it won't work that way for GK. The monsters just use the mudattack but if a hit counts or not is not defined in the attacking part of the monster. In the past impossible to change, but now since we had some change and the hitting management was moved a little outside the mudlib it is possible to edit if a hit counts in a centerain level for example.

Although this does not solve some problem with summened monsters being able to kill players BECAUSE if a monster was summoned and then the fluete sound is played the monster turns into an usual monster, acting like every other one. So it might only be possible to avoid players from getting killed by monsters in special levels like trade in general but not in specially by summoned ones.

I'm no programmer or scripter, so I'd appreciate if a 3rd person would give their word on this, but I THOUGHT scripting and programming gives you full control over a game. Now you're telling me these monsters that are simply programmed and scripted by people somehow CANNOT be editted to NOT hurt people? HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?! That's some "iRobot" bull****.

At worse, I would think it would require updating the client software.
In that case, it's still possible.

dNeonb · #58 03-03-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

I'm no programmer or scripter, so I'd appreciate if a 3rd person would give their word on this, but I THOUGHT scripting and programming gives you full control over a game. Now you're telling me these monsters that are simply programmed and scripted by people somehow CANNOT be editted to NOT hurt people? HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?! That's some "iRobot" bull****.

At worse, I would think it would require updating the client software.
In that case, it's still possible.

If you are no programmer and don't understand what I talked about you should maybe not post such comments but you should maybe read what Raven said he put it in some way even a non-programmer can understand it. Thanks, Raven.

BigBear3 · #59 03-03-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Erm, if you idle it mostly means that theres nothing else to do!

Edit:
Has anyone ever thought of mini-games? Stuff like bombermad on GK?

GK has mini-games. Zorbi Burst, etc.

Darklux · #60 03-04-2008, 11:59 AM

+ Mini games can't replace the not existing gameplay xD

Ravenblade1979 · #61 03-04-2008, 05:49 PM

@Bjorn - your welcome.

Well I have had a few requests for some new content. I would like to work with a few people on them before presenting them to bjorn.

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #62 03-04-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

If you are no programmer and don't understand what I talked about you should maybe not post such comments but you should maybe read what Raven said he put it in some way even a non-programmer can understand it.

Well, I do understand what you said. So the rest is irrelevant. Maybe you didn't say what you mean. I understand though; this is probably just another language barrier. Next time I will try to be more understanding of your limitations.

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Originally Posted by Darklux

+ Mini games can't replace the not existing gameplay xD

What do you mean by "not existing gameplay"?
There's definitely gameplay on GK. The problem is that it's all screwed up.

-Leveling is part of gameplay; but it's terrible because you can only get to a certain level before it becomes pointless. It will get boring due to lack of monster-variety. But the real problem is that, AFAIK, you'll never be able to get as high of a skill level as the people who abused the party bug, because after a while, even the strongest monsters give very little EXP.
-The item-system is flawed in that all good weapons have to be manually regulated (what i mean is... you can't build/buy/find any decent weapons in game. They're all released by staff as event or gift items.)
-The food system is flawed (see current thread about that)
-Pmode/bmode is flawed (subject of this thread as well as another)

While these things may not fix the game entirely, they would certainly make a major difference.

Ravenblade1979 · #63 03-04-2008, 10:30 PM

I would love to work on mini games just to add excitement.

Felix_Xenophobe · #64 03-04-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I would love to work on mini games just to add excitement.

how about an island made for sparring?
OH WAIT

Crimson2005 · #65 03-04-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I would love to work on mini games just to add excitement.

like zorbi burst? metris? breakout? kart track?

Elizabeth · #66 03-04-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nature2

1 Question : Why ppl do it?

Why ppl get strong monsters they kill PMODE Player?

its just annoying that the flute acs like the best wep in the game

How they do it:

They get monsters to follow then they play the stop song and all monsters begin to attack....

outside it isnt a problem but at BOMBORIA TRADEROOM you can just kill all player
with magical monsters...

sometimes i have to pillory ppl so they stop it but maybe they will do it again...

ppl loose all there gems and items because of that and they think they are save in the trade room... NOT ANYMORE

i was carrying 5 diamonds with me while i was in trade and i died and lost all of them and plat

Crimson2005 · #67 03-04-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

i was carrying 5 diamonds with me while i was in trade and i died and lost all of them and plat

is that all?

Tigairius · #68 03-05-2008, 06:25 PM

If you're not willing to altar the magic/attack system then why not just put this script in the trade room?

PHP Code:


			
function onPlayerEnters() {
  for(temp.i: npcs) {
    if (temp.i.ismudmonster && temp.i.mudowner.length() > 0) {
      temp.i.destroy();
    }
  }
}

Which would kill all the monsters that anyone brings in to the room.

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

If you are no programmer and don't understand what I talked about you should maybe not post such comments but you should maybe read what Raven said he put it in some way even a non-programmer can understand it. Thanks, Raven.

If no one can ever understand what you're trying to say why don't you explain it a bit better so people can understand.

Ravenblade1979 · #69 03-05-2008, 07:50 PM

Tig isn't it your job to help Bjorn with this stuff?

Tigairius · #70 03-05-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Tig isn't it your job to help Bjorn with this stuff?

My job is to help GK with scripting things, not to help Bjorn. Bjorn can script on his own, but if he needs help he knows he can ask me. I don't know how that is even relevant to my post. Besides, if I weren't helping why would I have posted that script? Swing and a miss, bud.

Ravenblade1979 · #71 03-05-2008, 08:51 PM

it was just a question Tig

Stephen · #72 03-05-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

it was just a question Tig

Given your consistently hostile demeanor, I think it's the confusion is understandable.

Ravenblade1979 · #73 03-05-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Given your consistently hostile demeanor, I think it's the confusion is understandable.

Stay out of something you know nothing about.

Stephen · #74 03-06-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Stay out of something you know nothing about.

Yea, I can't read quotes or make responsive observations about your poor attitude.

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #75 03-06-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Yea, I can't read quotes or make responsive observations about your poor attitude.

What he means is... Stay out of public discussions. You, being part of the general public, apparently should not involve yourself with matters that surround you.

Next week I'll teach you how to cover your eyes, ears, and mouth all at the same time.

Seeya · #76 03-06-2008, 03:31 AM

I only read the first and fifth page, so this is probably been said before..

but instead of worrying about who is going to kill you, go ahead and afk in a home.

Or of course, the simple alternative.
alt+f4+enter.

Stromstedt · #77 03-06-2008, 03:37 AM

Summoned and charmed monsters shouldn't be able to hurt p-moders in the first place so this should really be fixed. I doubt it will happen though since a lot of people are lazy x.x

cbk1994 · #78 03-06-2008, 04:25 AM

I guess I don't understand their systems, but there has to be a way to modify the systems -- there is no way they would make a system where the code was made, and could never, ever be changed.

Ravenblade1979 · #79 03-06-2008, 06:35 PM

Tig already put up a code that could be used to fix the problem. What we need now is for Bjorn to come online and check it out.

Tigairius · #80 03-06-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stromstedt

Summoned and charmed monsters shouldn't be able to hurt p-moders in the first place so this should really be fixed. I doubt it will happen though since a lot of people are lazy x.x

It's not a matter of being lazy. I don't want this fixed and I hope it won't get fixed. Perhaps the staff just don't want it fixed.