A Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

please do not post unless you have something constructive to say. Thanks.

I do.

Trust me, this wouldn't work out, knowing kingdoms "well" or not. Adding a new administrator would not change the fact that what would keep it going would be taking what Bjorn is doing and helping him with that.

[Mousymee]

Originally Posted by Horrified

I do.

Trust me, this wouldn't work out, knowing kingdoms "well" or not. Adding a new administrator would not change the fact that what would keep it going would be taking what Bjorn is doing and helping him with that.

Problem is, Bjorn isn't doing anything. You don't play this server, you have no idea what's going on. Tig's really talented, there's plenty he can do for the server. Googi, updates are essential to keep the players playing. We're trying to save the server, and saving the server means keeping a healthy playercount. Duly noted, updates don't matter to new players, but there's not a whole lot being done on the new player front right now, and it's not like
working on updates does anything to prevent getting new players on.

[protozero]

This game has gotten extremly boring. I have 7 days left on my account, and I won't upgrade unless something extremly drastic happens, which probably won't.

I don't see why any of you are against Tig haveing administrator rights, please tell me what wrong could come out of it!? Tig has proven himself both passionate and talented. Some new **** to gawk at while twidling our thumbs wuld be nice. There have been barely ANY updates at all, weather was crap but rain comes in handy for carrots. Even that took about a year to release AFTER it was said it was "already done". Bjorn has shown us what he can do, and I'm not all that impressed, lets give Tig a chance before we sack him.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Mousymee

Googi, updates are essential to keep the players playing.

Yeah, but they don't keep players playing just by being updates. They have to be the right updates.

Originally Posted by LadyDarkwolf

Shouldnt there be something to get those that play now to stay and get new people to start playing but also keep everyone?

Yeah, there should be, but nobody can come up with a "something" that would actually be effective.

Originally Posted by protozero

I don't see why any of you are against Tig haveing administrator rights

I don't see why any of you are against <insert name of anybody who can develop here> having administrator rights.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Googi

I don't see why any of you are against <insert name of anybody who can develop here> having administrator rights.

I am not so sure about this thread, but I am pretty sure a big point of Fenix's is that I have been around here since the near beginning, and I have shown that I am dedicated to the server, not just that I have the ability to develop well, again, Fenix, correct me if I'm wrong.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I am not so sure about this thread, but I am pretty sure a big point of Fenix's is that I have been around here since the near beginning, and I have shown that I am dedicated to the server, not just that I have the ability to develop well, again, Fenix, correct me if I'm wrong.

Once again you're right. No it's not because you can only script, etc etc. Its because you've been around since I have 4 years ago and there comes with it a knowledge and maturity that is needed to run a server with this kind of history. The server is made up of two things that are attractive. Content and Community. That's what made Graal a hit with 110+ player counts back in 2003. Tig has been around a very long time and he has the ability, the knowledge, and the ideas to relinquish the dead server that Graal has become into a new living and breathing being that I once was.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

and the ideas to relinquish the dead server

What's your basis for this? Where are these ideas?

Originally Posted by Mousymee

They'll be the right updates. Tig's a player, like the rest of us, he knows what we want, he'll actually listen to us.

I'm not impressed by the update suggestions coming from the players. Most of them are updates that even they themselves would probably get bored of in under two hours.

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

But Tig is a start in the right direction. Otherwise NOTHING will get done just like NOTHING has been done since 2004 after event island was added during the MarkB Raffle days.

But things were added. Like Battle Island. Which didn't do anything because it was a worthless update. Tell me what's going to be added that isn't going to be a worthless update.

[FenixTheBanished]

Originally Posted by Googi

Yeah, but they don't keep players playing just by being updates. They have to be the right updates.



Yeah, there should be, but nobody can come up with a "something" that would actually be effective.



I don't see why any of you are against <insert name of anybody who can develop here> having administrator rights.

Googi, you're a complete pessimist. Stop saying no one can come up with the right updates! FFS! NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO. Hell, if you have the money go* hire a World of Warcraft developer and in about 2 months he'll make Graal something to take your breath away for a 2D game. But clearly we don't have those recourses available to us!!!

Tig will be able to get us off on the right foot and he isn't going to just do any random stupid updates. He would think things through, think of what should be done and how things would be effected. So please stop sitting here knocking EVERYONE because there isn't a cure all solution to the problem. Yea we all agree with you, there isn't. So get off that subject, we all agree about it. But Tig is a start in the right direction. Otherwise NOTHING will get done just like NOTHING has been done since 2004 after event island was added during the MarkB Raffle days.

[Mousymee]

Originally Posted by Googi

Yeah, but they don't keep players playing just by being updates. They have to be the right updates.

They'll be the right updates. Tig's a player, like the rest of us, he knows what we want, he'll actually listen to us.