Do you want to see an official Graal Kingdoms FAQ team? - Page 2

Crono · #41 09-20-2007, 12:43 AM

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IGNORE ME IM RELATED TO STEPHEN

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Ravenblade1979 · #42 09-20-2007, 01:07 AM

Bjorn can I point out some things.

1) If FAQ doesn't idle while on tag then they don't need Graal Kingdoms RC access.
2) We EM's don't have RC access to Graal Kingdoms (nor do we need it just like FAQ team when you make one).
3) Giving FAQ access to Graal Kingdoms RC is just an excuse for them to idle on it

Sheen_the_mage · #43 09-20-2007, 01:10 AM

Becuase Stefan hates ET's ^ ^ ^

Ravenblade1979 · #44 09-20-2007, 01:20 AM

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Becuase Stefan hates ET's ^ ^ ^

lol I am an EM and he doesn't hate me. Although ET's haven't had a good run on Zone from what I have heard.

pooper200000 · #45 09-20-2007, 02:45 AM

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lol I am an EM and he doesn't hate me. Although ET's haven't had a good run on Zone from what I have heard.

heard all you have to do is read the forums and you can tell some of them have not..

dNeonb · #46 09-20-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

2) We EM's don't have RC access to Graal Kingdoms (nor do we need it just like FAQ team when you make one).
3) Giving FAQ access to Graal Kingdoms RC is just an excuse for them to idle on it

2) For EMs answering questions is more a job on the side. They have to be on client to host the events.
3) Why is it an excuse to idle? Abusing RC on GK means ban so I don't see much of a problem. People will think about it twice. The only thing they could do is abuse the RC to idle but they can also idle if they are on FAQ tag. There is no big difference besides the ban.

ViperZakuto · #47 09-20-2007, 10:45 AM

How would you apply for such a position? I have 1400 hours on this account... plus i got about 1000 hours on another account. I've been around gk for a long time. there isn't much i don't know how to do. I always enjoy helping newer players. The higher the playercount the better.

Ravenblade1979 · #48 09-20-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

3) Why is it an excuse to idle? Abusing RC on GK means ban so I don't see much of a problem. People will think about it twice. The only thing they could do is abuse the RC to idle but they can also idle if they are on FAQ tag. There is no big difference besides the ban.

If you want to believe so alright Bjorn but don't start crying if they start idling on Graal Kingdoms RC and not doing their job because it will happen. In fact I know it will happen. Why bother going on the client when all they have to do is login to RC to idle. You are just giving them the excuse to login and idle. I say just give them the tag with NO RC access. They will show up in the player list like we EM's do, like staff does. At the top where it says "Staff".

dNeonb · #49 09-20-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

If you want to believe so alright Bjorn but don't start crying if they start idling on Graal Kingdoms RC and not doing their job because it will happen. In fact I know it will happen. Why bother going on the client when all they have to do is login to RC to idle. You are just giving them the excuse to login and idle. I say just give them the tag with NO RC access. They will show up in the player list like we EM's do, like staff does. At the top where it says "Staff".

If you are so positive about FAQ guys idling on RC or client and just don't answer quesions from people like you mentioned in other posts... why did you even come up with this?
You just turn your own things down if you don't notice. You should have voted "NO" if you think all they do is abuse their staffjob.

Crimson2005 · #50 09-20-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

You just turn your own things down if you don't notice. You should have voted "NO" if you think all they do is abuse their staffjob.

And now he will call for the thread to be closed

Ravenblade1979 · #51 09-20-2007, 06:18 PM

Bjorn you haven't exactly had a good run with staff. There were a few GP's that were constantly idle. Its hard to think good things with examples like that. I still don't think they need RC access. Any staff tag will show up on the list at the top so there is no real need for RC access.

ViperZakuto · #52 09-20-2007, 11:44 PM

Well with or without RC access I still wanna be a Faq and get new people playing this game.

CABAL49 · #53 09-21-2007, 02:27 AM

are We Getting A Faq Team? This Is Not A Rc Rights Question.

dNeonb · #54 09-21-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CABAL49

are We Getting A Faq Team? This Is Not A Rc Rights Question.

Thats correct because if you read everything there is mentioned that they are not getting rights on RC anyway. Question was about accessing the RC.

sage_scooby · #55 09-21-2007, 03:32 PM

First off I just want to say I'd like to assist on a FAQ team.

Then onto the RC bit. If bjorn wants faq to have RC thats fine by me a good FAQ will use it properly. If they are just idling they lose RC and FAQ thats that. If I were FAQ I'd rather have people pming my RC than my player. Then your player wouldn't be under constant PM bombardment. Also the FAQs could use the RC chat to discuss if they aren't clear on the answer. There are many good points. If the worst they can do is idle then who cares.

The main thing is getting a clear answer. Will GK get a FAQ team? If so when can we expect to see some members or tryouts?

dNeonb · #56 09-21-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sage_scooby

Will GK get a FAQ team? If so when can we expect to see some members or tryouts?

I guess it was my first post on this faq discussion where I mentioned that we already wanted to do this but the people jumped off we asked.

Ravenblade1979 · #57 09-21-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

I guess it was my first post on this faq discussion where I mentioned that we already wanted to do this but the people jumped off we asked.

And instead of asking more people you just gave up. There were far more people who would have done it had you asked.

I won't argue on the RC thing but when they start to idle on it and I start to get people complaining Bjorn I will make sure to pass it onto you. This was never about them getting rights on RC. Even I am smart enough to know that they wouldn't have anything more then just logging in.

@Sage- No offense to you but when are you actually on? I see you login to Atlantis or Zodiac all the time. I never see you on GK anymore and your a EM.

sage_scooby · #58 09-21-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@Sage- No offense to you but when are you actually on? I see you login to Atlantis or Zodiac all the time. I never see you on GK anymore and your a EM.

None taken, I get bored like everyone else when there are only 4 people on GK. So I hop servers until I see more people on. Which lately hasn't been often. If I was a FAQ I'd hang around and answer questions. One can only level for so long and I don't like to idle.

Ravenblade1979 · #59 09-21-2007, 04:06 PM

lol me and sage are discussing this right now off the forums.

Ok bjorn I guess I have to spell this out for you. You say its a bannable offense to idle on RC for Graal Kingdoms right.

Well with the playercounts during the day due to school there isn't much in the way of questions and they would have to idle just to wait. So right there they would be banned for doing their job.

I think they should be on the server more then RC in case they need to show someone something.

dNeonb · #60 09-21-2007, 05:31 PM

Raven, you should learn with idling is I guess.
Idling is if you are logged on but you aren't at your computer so you are not able to interact. In other words have a look at some of the guys on Debug who stay online if they are actually asleep. That's idling and not if you are online and wait for something to happen to give an extreme example.

ReBorn_Spirit · #61 09-21-2007, 06:53 PM

IF we even get an FAQ group, make them be on GK and active so they can actaully run around and help out people. Don't need to bug people on RC all day do they?

Besides I thought it was against some rule somewheres to use monsters to kill someone.

Ravenblade1979 · #62 09-21-2007, 07:19 PM

It is but people still monster lame.

Ravenblade1979 · #63 09-21-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Raven, you should learn with idling is I guess.
Idling is if you are logged on but you aren't at your computer so you are not able to interact. In other words have a look at some of the guys on Debug who stay online if they are actually asleep. That's idling and not if you are online and wait for something to happen to give an extreme example.

Sorry for the double post.

Bjorn plain and simple ITS STUPID TO GIVE THEM RC ACCESS. They don't need it. They are on to INTERACT with the players and give them help if they ask for it. That DOESN'T requre RC access. Exactly what other non noob server do that? These people are there to INTERACT with the players not sit off server on RC and probably not come on. Your making it worse for newer players.

Heck today I will use myself as an example. People have actually come to know me a bit better and I have questions thrown at me quite a bit. Today I helped two people reset and to answer their questions. Funny thing is one of them never heard of you Bjorn. Your not on enough.

I would love to do FAQ along with my EM job but I wouldn't want RC access because the players need you there physically on the server and its the better of the two ideas.

Besides if you go on staff tag of any type you show up in the playerlist under the word "Staff"

dNeonb · #64 09-21-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Heck today I will use myself as an example. People have actually come to know me a bit better and I have questions thrown at me quite a bit. Today I helped two people reset and to answer their questions. Funny thing is one of them never heard of you Bjorn. Your not on enough.

I'm not one of these "HEY, here I'M! Where are the spotlights?" guys.

Googi · #65 09-21-2007, 08:36 PM

There isn't really much of a reason not to give rightless RC to FAQs. But then there isn't really much of a reason not to just give rightless RC to every player.

Also, I don't know why you guys seem primarily concerned with people intentionally idling on RC as some kind of "corrupt" act. I'd think that people minimizing their RC and just forgetting that they have it on would be far more likely to happen.

If I become FAQ and get RC I wouldn't use it unless it's the only way to go on-tag or something stupid like that happens.

Vimerge · #66 09-21-2007, 08:39 PM

Giving RC to FAQ is plain stupid
RC is for developers only, period.

dNeonb · #67 09-21-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vimerge

RC is for developers only, period.

Quite a simple answer, no. Maybe on your playerworld but on GK developers have no access to the RC on GK.

Ravenblade1979 · #68 09-21-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

I'm not one of these "HEY, here I'M! Where are the spotlights?" guys.

A bit childish coming from you.

No GK RC isn't for dev but IT SHOULD NOT BE FOR FAQ.

They need to be on the server and not on that idiotic thing. YOu help someone you be there on the server. Especially if its just for FAQ. For other stuff that take rights then yes GK RC I can see.

Vimerge · #69 09-21-2007, 08:47 PM

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Quite a simple answer, no. Maybe on your playerworld but on GK developers have no access to the RC on GK.

well that's even more pointless, you want FAQ to have RC? while dev have no rc?

dNeonb · #70 09-21-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

They need to be on the server and not on that idiotic thing. YOu help someone you be there on the server.

You are on the server if you are on "that idiotic thing".

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Originally Posted by Vimerge

well that's even more pointless, you want FAQ to have RC? while dev have no rc?

Think about it, it's not pointless. It's just securety. Dev's have access on debug so you can be sure everything is checked that gets on to GK.

Ravenblade1979 · #71 09-21-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

You are on the server if you are on "that idiotic thing".

"This sentence is removed due to infraction given". I was referring to the idiotic thing as RC access...not serverside. Learn the difference.

Vimerge · #72 09-21-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Think about it, it's not pointless. It's just securety. Dev's have access on debug so you can be sure everything is checked that gets on to GK.

Ok, understandable, but, still...FAQ don't need RC, be reasonable.

Googi · #73 09-21-2007, 08:59 PM

The issue of RC shouldn't be eclipsing the issue of the actual creation of a FAQ team. Seeing as the biggest threat is people idling, and most of the people interested in becoming FAQ probably wouldn't use it unless forced to, if Bjorn really wants to give FAQ RC it should be fine. More important is that a FAQ team actually is created.

Ravenblade1979 · #74 09-21-2007, 09:04 PM

Agreed Googi that is important but the ball is in his court now. he's either not going to do it or he will then later on down the road problems might arise and we will hear about it.

dNeonb · #75 09-21-2007, 09:05 PM

(Answer deleted due to removal of the post by the user.)

Actually it doesn't make a difference if someone asks you if it is possible to start all over again. All you do is telling him to command or would you show him how it works and reset yourself?

Vimerge · #76 09-21-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Actually it doesn't make a difference if someone asks you if it is possible to start all over again. All you do is telling him to command or would you show him how it works and reset yourself?

What about directing someone a location?
asking what commands for actions needed is not all a FAQ needs to answer/help with

dNeonb · #77 09-21-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vimerge

What about directing someone a location?
asking what commands for actions needed is not all a FAQ needs to answer/help with

Then you are still able to get on client to show them. Or you are that good that you are able to descibe how they have to walk to get there.

Ravenblade1979 · #78 09-21-2007, 09:14 PM

Look Bjorn your apparently going to do what you want. You have your mind set on giving them GK RC...well fine have fun but don't be complaining later IF they start idling and not doing their job.

I still say just them having the FAQ tag on Clientside is good enough. When us EM's go on tag we show up in the player list under "Staff" and so would they.

dNeonb · #79 09-21-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Look Bjorn your apparently going to do what you want. You have your mind set on giving them GK RC

Then I wouldn't discuss it and just would have done it.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I still say just them having the FAQ tag on Clientside is good enough. When us EM's go on tag we show up in the player list under "Staff" and so would they.

Sure they would and this is fine. But one thing in this case doesn't exclue another from going to happen, does it? RC has still positive aspects which were not only mentioned by me. I'm working with dvd creation tools that need quite a lot memory and all gfx ressources. This makes it impossible to get on client if I use them but I still can get on RC to talk to other people.

SayianOozaru · #80 09-21-2007, 10:24 PM

from what im getting from this, dont feel like reading to page 6, is that ravens pissed that people will idle on rc (for some reason hours makes a difference for some people? lol), or he's pissed that FAQ would get RC, and he doesn't have it...

and Bjorn's trying to say FAQ might have RC, but if they do, all they'll be able to do is get on and talk, they wont have rights to **** (what else is new? lol)

and everyone else just wants bjorn to say if theres gonna be a FAQ team or not, but he wont? (only made it to page 3 guys)

I say get a whole new set off staff. These ones dont do there jobs anyways. (hence why there are NO items left in the game, and why theres never any big updates) That's my 2 cents anyways. Don't just higher FAQ, get a whole new set off staff so GK might be fun again, instead of its 8 playercount 2/3's of the week

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