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[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by zokemon

Only if it had an option to turn it on and off!

Only if Graal is going to target an older age group, and not young children whos parents might not want their kids to see the things I have seen in game. There is more to think of besides what some of us want. If Graal is going to target a younger playerbase, then they need to make it pleasing towards the parents/caregivers also, or they are not going to pay for it even if they do have the money to do so.

I don't agree that there should be an option to turn it off. I believe it should be implemented, and used by everyone.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Only if Graal is going to target an older age group, and not young children whos parents might not want their kids to see the things I have seen in game. There is more to think of besides what some of us want. If Graal is going to target a younger playerbase, then they need to make it pleasing towards the parents/caregivers also, or they are not going to pay for it even if they do have the money to do so.

I don't agree that there should be an option to turn it off. I believe it should be implemented, and used by everyone.

Have you been to the internet recently? I can get videos of porn with a few clicks. I can hear horrible language by going to youtube. I can use profanity to someone over AIM.

Quit acting like we are in the golden age of the 50's. Should we allow it? No. But can we prevent it? Absolutely not. Have you played any other games? If the players aren't old enough, they shouldn't play. You aren't going to be able to dull-down the system enough to make it completely appropriate for younger players without completely alienating a large portion of your general user-base. Just because you aren't one of those members doesn't mean you can't see how obvious this is.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Have you been to the internet recently? I can get videos of porn with a few clicks. I can hear horrible language by going to youtube. I can use profanity to someone over AIM.

Quit acting like we are in the golden age of the 50's. Should we allow it? No. But can we prevent it? Absolutely not. Have you played any other games? If the players aren't old enough, they shouldn't play. You aren't going to be able to dull-down the system enough to make it completely appropriate for younger players without completely alienating a large portion of your general user-base. Just because you aren't one of those members doesn't mean you can't see how obvious this is.

No, I haven't been on the internet lately.
So let's all just stop trying to make things better just because we know we can't.
I don't agree with that at all. Just because you can find horrible crap all over the internet, doesn't mean the administration of Graal shouldn't do what they can to minimize it on their game.

Ignoring it is not the answer.

Oh, and if older people are going to say "OMG, if I can't use horrible language, and talk to people who just might be kids the way I want, I am not going to play!"
Then maybe they should find something else to do with their time.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

No, I haven't been on the internet lately.
So let's all just stop trying to make things better just because we know we can't.
I don't agree with that at all. Just because you can find horrible crap all over the internet, doesn't mean the administration of Graal shouldn't do what they can to minimize it on their game.

Ignoring it is not the answer.

Oh, and if older people are going to say "OMG, if I can't use horrible language, and talk to people who just might be kids the way I want, I am not going to play!"
Then maybe they should find something else to do with their time.

Did you read my post at all? I said that we shouldn't just allow it, because I knew you were going to take this off-point response as your defense, yet, you still did. Congrats.

Anyway, the point is that if someone is in-game and they're talking to another friend, it becomes annoying when some words are blocked, or restrictions are made that seem a little bit harsh. It's unattractive. Especially when you already have people that are supposed to enforce rules. What exactly is their job if you already have systems built in to control any negative feedback?

Over-protective swear filters are a huge turnoff, and have turned me away from a few servers.

Maybe if you didn't have you "what's wrong with kids today" attitude (and don't try to deny it) you would have a little different outlook.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Did you read my post at all? I said that we shouldn't just allow it, because I knew you were going to take this off-point response as your defense, yet, you still did. Congrats.

So then I wont bother. I don't feel like wasting my time that can be spent doing something that matters, other than arguing with people who want to cuss on a game. I said all I wanted to say anyway.

Originally Posted by kia345

This game promotes killing, violence, and gangs, and we got 4 pages discussing cussing?

So does quite a few video games, popular ones too, but you don't see the vulgar speach in them. It doesn't take away from the fun factor either.

[oinknessx]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Only if Graal is going to target an older age group, and not young children whos parents might not want their kids to see the things I have seen in game. There is more to think of besides what some of us want. If Graal is going to target a younger playerbase, then they need to make it pleasing towards the parents/caregivers also, or they are not going to pay for it even if they do have the money to do so.

I don't agree that there should be an option to turn it off. I believe it should be implemented, and used by everyone.

It's a hard thing to implement because although Graal is intended for youngsters, the majority of people who develop and script or do whatever are older players, and they may get pissed and head to a more age-friendly game if everything gets dumbed down for children at some point.

If I was a parent, I probably wouldn't let my kid play Graal, or I would play at the same time and only go on playerworlds with nice people. Not like Era or NPulse, but maybe GK. You can spend hours killing beach crabs to level up a newb on there without seeing anyone.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Only if Graal is going to target an older age group, and not young children whos parents might not want their kids to see the things I have seen in game. There is more to think of besides what some of us want. If Graal is going to target a younger playerbase, then they need to make it pleasing towards the parents/caregivers also, or they are not going to pay for it even if they do have the money to do so.

I don't agree that there should be an option to turn it off. I believe it should be implemented, and used by everyone.

How does this make any sense to you?

Right now there is no way of checking to see if an account was registered through use of COPPA, or any real checks of whether or not someone is old enough. I know there are plenty of Classic Players who have lied about being over 12 (so 13 or older) to accept COPPA agreements, and have freely admitted they're under 13. However, your suggestion is that Graal Online should cater to these liars that have already broken Graal's Code of Conduct?

I don't see how Graal Online's Code of Conduct can possibly stand to protect them if they've violated it. Once they've violated it, all protection should be out the window.

Instead of catering to younger kids who shouldn't be playing the game to begin with based on the COPPA Agreement(Honestly Unixmad and Stefan, how many COPPA Forms have you gotten from parents? 2? 3?) how about we weed these issues out first? Worry about protecting the legit younger crowd once we're sure they belong here.

Also, why not allow the censor to be enabled or disabled Moonie? No one is going to force you to disable yours. No one will force kids to disable theirs.

[Mark Sir Link]

Perhaps I should slightly elaborate. No server staff members can check if an account was registered by use of a COPPA agreement and it cannot be checked in game.