Vulgar Chat Now Recorded
 

Vulgar chat is now recorded.
I would instruct the GP to only use it if there are complaints about someone being harassed. I have no intention of it being used to jail players for cursing in private conversation, etc. However, I don't control how it will be used, so talk to Stryker if you don't like it. Frankly I'm not shocked at how large the file is after one day.

Also, I'm not making an effort to make it not record certain words that conflict with spellings of words that are not vulgar, simply because the purpose is not to isolate vulgar language.

Cool...I might start playing classic again :)

You didn't play due to vulgar messages? =O
Cool addition :cool:

Correct, and harrassment. Seems the staff is commited to solving the problem though. :)

Boredom =(.

I think it's a stupid idea to log every single person's chat and send it to the server to log it.

but it can't be worse then the guy who did a 0.05 timeout triggering the server to just get the current chat and save it.. I felt bad for the 150 mb file in an hour =(

Wrong, that records all. This one just records the Vulgar messages :P

o pff.

Re-check :(
lol

Either one works.. or suppost to?

I'm hoping this cannot log vulgar messages sent in toguilds...

This is starting to borderline invasion of privacy me thinks.

It should only be used to check on a message that was reported. I'm sure that is the purpose of it (or I hope so)

Yes, thats its purpose. To be able to prove whether a complaint is manufactured chat to get someone in trouble or actual chat. I for one don't want to read through hundreds of MB's of logs just to pick on someone. Its only for claim substantiation.

I wonder why you were harassed x_x

Because many players are too childish to confront her by other means?

whats a more mature way? hatemail?

I made a chat recorder thing on N-Pulse but it wasn't always on. High member GP's had to authorise it and it recorded everything until taken off.

Done on Era already (infact I am logged.. how cool) - and is on GX as well.

This would be pretty easy to evade wouldn't it?

sure @$$ Hole Migger DITCH KOCK SUCKER (example of avoiding it)

lol, but yeah.. will be easily - above is an example.

btw, I can bet I get an infraction for this =1

Kuji - your probably on high infracture alert. You better believe the mods are taking extra care to check your every post ^^.

I don't think constant monitoring is wise. I do prefer having the ability to monitor someone who haasrepeatedly done bad stuff but monitoring from go seems...invasive. Next there will be a room which has NPC's cloning each player showing their actions and speech ^^.

1984 / Big Brother anyone?

Ultimately I don't mind these additions, aslong as they are being used for what they were designed for. I don't want to see a couple months down the road (but probably will), GPs handing out warnings/jailings for profanity said in playerchat, or a toguilds if it wasn't reported as harassment/used in general conversation with another player.

I hope GP's don't use logs as evidence 2+ weeks on. These logs should automatically be deleted after a certain amount of time..


It would suck to be jailed by a GP based on swear word count over 6 months ^^.

uhh... that would actually be picked up just for the fact that it's very lenient in what it records.

I wouldn't say that statement is quite right. Staff... committed? So why I resigned as LAT Admin is a lie? Yet, I'm still doing a lot of the work, and meanwhile PR is threatening to remove my RC, though I don't believe he has a right to.

Actually I appreciate the display so that I know it is simple, it works, and in this particular instance I learned how to make things happen when the player hits Enter in the Chat box text.

didn't know that. call me a noob.

You could probably easily set up a warning/auto-jail system that gives you so many warnings and then sends you to jail/silences you for a certain amount of time. I think we have something like that on the mass system on Maloria.

What if I cursed in French?

It should be the other way round in my opinion.

I think it should default to Off, and be activated by players. Thus, if someone's being harassed, they can turn on the recorder and Viola, evidence. Since players tend not to have access to serverside strings, relatively hacksafe...

Yea, but if there are a lot of them turned on it has the potential to lag the server to death.

i quit classic then :(

...as opposed to them all, always being on? I think you've confused me-
Me: It should be something players have to turn on - you activate it recording incoming vulgarity to be used as evidence in a formal complaint, the rest of the time it's off.
You: But then if everyone turned it on at the same time, the server would lag to death.
Me: ...isn't that what it's doing now, Everyone has it turned on?

Maybe if it recorded multiple instances of the same people - all 20 people in level 14 turning it on and recording 20 instances each of the 19 other people each swearing - that could be a problem...

I thought you meant recording all chat.
Anyways, it's much much much simpler just to have it on all the time, and shouldn't lag the server at all.

recording all chat is death to the npc server x.x

wtf, classic used to be the only cool server swearing wise cuz they didnt care much. this sux, I am considering quitting classic 0.o

This is what the Graal community has come to. :mad:

I should probably clarify this.

Personally, I don't care if you swear in messages to other player as long as your both happy for that to happen. The reason this was introduced was that before we would get a complaint about swearing, but have no evidence to go with it. Because of this, lot of people were reporting fellow players just to get them in trouble, often when they had not sworn at all. With things recorded, we can easily verify any claims, which just helps us from wrongly warning people. We are not going to troll through the history just to catch everyone who ever swore, it's only there as an aid for when its required. Anyway, in most cases players are not getting jailed for swearing unless it's very severe and persistent. In that case they are fully aware of what they are doing and will have had warnings (both informal and formal) before hand.

I should probably also point out that theres been quite an increase in vulgar mass messages over the last year or two, something that is preventing a lot of people from enjoying mass messages. I just wish people would have a little more thought about what they are massing at times, as Graal is a game for all ages.

Hope that clears thing up. You are welcome to ask me more about it in-game if you wish.

Considering at the end of the day, they are just words, words that people have been told that they are "bad".

I can't believe people actually cry over such little things. I would hate to see what they would be like in person.

The mass messages is why I was glad to see this implimented. I agree with you in saying it doesn't matter what people say in private PM's, as long as the other person doesn't mind, but like you, I wish people would show a little restraint in public/mass messages. Not everyone wants to read that stuff.

Don't get me twisted, I really hate going on classic (when I used too) and every man and his dog would be massiving absolute CRAP.

Thought:
There should be a seperate category for Persistent Messages. Instead of getting the same mass several times because that one guy wants to make sure everyone hears him asking where he get ying-yang in box, send a Persistent message and it's "stickied".
Also makes it easier for the GPs to figure out who's sending them, since it'll be there for a while if they're abusing it.