Whats up Graal gold?

[kenyonandelliot]

They need to get organized, or atleast sit on the computer a few hours every day (except for sundays) make new things for GK..

[killerogue]

I find that I had to post here, as quite a few of you players who don't do any sort of developement take the time to make it sound easy. Well, newsflash dammit, it aint.

This myth-symbia dude, guy let me ask you...have you ever scripted a thing in your life stemming past

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You have no idea how insulting that comment you made, about "a bunch of kids who can't script". First off, I don't see you jumping for joy to help out Stefan and Unixmad in developement or even attempting to learn to script to do so. So before you sit here and complain about lack of updates, which yes does involve the faults of the graal online staff, stop and think about what you're going to say and please choose not to spew out utter nonsense and attempting to mock any sort of developement done by the younger generation.

Me being a part of the "younger" generation, I found that kid comment quite insulting, and I don't think I'm a half bad scripter.



E: Love ranting.

Really you don't even have an argument or ground to stand on here. Just a bunch of unfounded accusations based on you crying about things not getting done due to the small staff team-which granted is there fault-and yet have no spoken up to attempt to help in anyway, or even attempted to learn anything to do anything about it. You just sit and complain like an oversized baby with terrible grammar.

In short, cut the damn tears and find some facts and logical sense for your arguments before you just start sputtering like a babbling, incoherent human being.

[Twinny]

Alot of people don't play to make the game Stan... The ability to make your own server should be a bonus to what's offered by the cyberjouers staff: i.e. their promised amounts of updates within a scheduled time.

[Pimmeh]

I actually still play this game because I dream of finally getting my own PW up...
I think there are lots of people that would like to work on servers but that they are not learned the howto.
I think im gonna install a little island for new staff members to practise on...

[myth-simba]

*****...did someone just say they should work on the 3d dungeons??

How the hell can they even work on a complex 3D game if they cannot be arsed to do anything with their current 2D games?
I am not thinking staff are lazy anymore..i am beginning to think they are incapable of handling a game. I mean the speed of their updates goes beyond lazyness.


Oh in anyways killerrogue.
So scripting may be hard yes?
Fair enough it probably is hard but if they cannot do it properly or even do it fast enough they should not charge people to play on their servers. Its like buying a go-kart and finding out the rental karts beat yours on speed and handling..you are like "well wtf did i buy this for?".Anyways if you played Gk or zone then you would know what the staff are like. so go there and play then comment on this thread.

Players should not need to script or do any sort of development on a game they are paying for. What type of backward crack community did you come from?

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the staff. I would happily help script on GK, working not on systems, which must be done by Stefan/Bjorn, but I can work on things for kingdoms. However, they won't have any help. A lot of people would be able to help. The problem isn't lack of people willing to help. It is the staff not letting anyone help.

That is actually completly incorrect. We always said and still say that people can work on things and if they have something they can submit it.
And if you want a position on debug to work for a kingdom, like you just mentioned you would help a kingdom, you have to ask the kingdom leader and not the staffs. Because the leaders of the kingdoms actually plan or should plan what's going on on their island. This means they pick who is working on the kingdom islands.

Originally Posted by Googi

Huge waste of time. Do you really think being able to see our amulets is something that's going to improve the playing experience?

I did not say that, did I? I just said that this is something that's gonna come up because this was the question.

[Crono]

Bjorn, I have no idea how you managed to watch GK die over the years and not do a thing.

[Darklux]

I think there needs to be staff hired or something.

I have seen nothing in the past year, which would make me upgrade my account again. No news, no updates, no changes. So what should I pay my money for?

[Twinny]

Well Kingdoms did have Zero and Novo: the two greatest none-cyberjouers developers for a time.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Bjorn, I have no idea how you managed to watch GK die over the years and not do a thing.

I have no idea but you seem not to read forums. How oftehn should I explain it again. I once even made a topic and also in the staffcontacts, a sticky thread in the main forums, I'm marked as Administrations Staffmember. I'm not manager, Stefan is manager, owner or however you want to call it.

[DustyPorViva]

Question though... He may be manager, but is he in charge of development still? I assume he's manager/owner just because Kingdom's is still a gold server and he's not going to hand it over until it's done. Even though he doesn't hand it over, I don't think he's actually much into developing for it anyone, and that'd make the next person down the head of getting stuff done?

[Ravenblade1979]

OK you know what I am sick of this. Bjorn in plain english.

1) Being able to see bracelets or w/e won't bring the people back.
2) We need new monsters and quests
3) The kingdom leaders should be a bit more active and have people do some dev work while they are gone (CP excluded because I know what they do on their island)
4) We need to come up with a new way to keep people around (new items, new monsters, new quests, new island etc).

I have been around long enough now to know that a small update here and there won't do it. There are people willing to help..not just the kingdoms but the server Bjorn. I hear that a lot of ideas are turned down. That just isn't right. Get more people to help dev for GK itself..not for the kingdom islands..they are fine. If the leaders want help they will ask their own members.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

OK you know what I am sick of this. Bjorn in plain english.

1) Being able to see bracelets or w/e won't bring the people back.
2) We need new monsters and quests
3) The kingdom leaders should be a bit more active and have people do some dev work while they are gone (CP excluded because I know what they do on their island)
4) We need to come up with a new way to keep people around (new items, new monsters, new quests, new island etc).

I have been around long enough now to know that a small update here and there won't do it. There are people willing to help..not just the kingdoms but the server Bjorn. I hear that a lot of ideas are turned down. That just isn't right. Get more people to help dev for GK itself..not for the kingdom islands..they are fine. If the leaders want help they will ask their own members.

If people have an idea they can realize it if it's good. Just if people maybe don't support your idea this does not mean you may not do it. If you want to develop a new quest with some friends then do that, if you like to see a new monster, design it and made the ganis.
People always complained that they can't do anything because they don't have basic levels or npcs for the level design. We added some development pack everyone can download from the serverlist on GK. But even after that people don't do it. Althought if that was the real reason, I don't understand why oneone of the people who did the glorious speeches didn't do something. Can you explain this to me?

If you want I think I can talk to Stefan and Unixmad or Darlene we might be able to get a development board for GK where people can submit these finished things and other ones can rate them. Or we can also put up to date npcs and stuff there people can use.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by dNeonb

I have no idea but you seem not to read forums. How oftehn should I explain it again. I once even made a topic and also in the staffcontacts, a sticky thread in the main forums, I'm marked as Administrations Staffmember. I'm not manager, Stefan is manager, owner or however you want to call it.

And? What does this have to do with my question? You're in a position where you CAN make the server better.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by Gerami

And? What does this have to do with my question? You're in a position where you CAN make the server better.

Like in the first post of this thread posted by me mentioned, I don't know what's currently going on. I know what Stefan and unixmad plann things for GK but I don't know what. So what so should I do, interrupt their process by doing things that would be completly against it. I didn't even see Stefan for about 2 weeks or even more.

Althought there is no questionmark in your three posts..