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Old 05-15-2007, 03:26 PM
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I have no idea but you seem not to read forums. How oftehn should I explain it again. I once even made a topic and also in the staffcontacts, a sticky thread in the main forums, I'm marked as Administrations Staffmember. I'm not manager, Stefan is manager, owner or however you want to call it.
And? What does this have to do with my question? You're in a position where you CAN make the server better.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:29 PM
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And? What does this have to do with my question? You're in a position where you CAN make the server better.
Like in the first post of this thread posted by me mentioned, I don't know what's currently going on. I know what Stefan and unixmad plann things for GK but I don't know what. So what so should I do, interrupt their process by doing things that would be completly against it. I didn't even see Stefan for about 2 weeks or even more.

Althought there is no questionmark in your three posts..
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:16 PM
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Like in the first post of this thread posted by me mentioned, I don't know what's currently going on. I know what Stefan and unixmad plann things for GK but I don't know what. So what so should I do, interrupt their process by doing things that would be completly against it. I didn't even see Stefan for about 2 weeks or even more.
I'm pretty sure they'll listen to things you say though.

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Old 05-15-2007, 06:21 PM
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I'm pretty sure they'll listen to things you say though.
Then we would have something for about 1 year or so that appeared again right now for example.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=73985


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Old 05-15-2007, 06:24 PM
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Then we would have something for about 1 year or so that appeared again right now for example.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=73985
Well, I'm sure they'll listen to your ingame suggestions. Not for us though, they'll just ignore us.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:27 PM
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Well, I'm sure they'll listen to your ingame suggestions. Not for us though, they'll just ignore us.
In small questions I actually think so and if it's not that big I also do things without asking.
But it should mean something that they don't tell me what they plan for GK then. I'm not interested in the complete Graal thin they want to change just GK. But I don't even know that. Just that it's gonna be a big difference.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:34 PM
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We were promised so many things and none of them came true.
and the ones that did weren't so great.
Where is this revolutionary flying system hmm?
Instead of working on something as great and beneficial to all servers like so you work on Graal 3D which is a waste of time considering there are bigger and better games inclusing world of warcraft, pirate king online and so many other big titles. Graal 3D does not stand a chance.

Want to know why us players travelled to graal? Because it was a different game from the others and a change in gaming experience and now you are trying to phase this out and compete with a bigger and better game genre which frankly you do not have the experience or funding to manage.
If you staff guys seriously think graal is capable of such a change then good luck but monthly subscriptions ain't gonna get you far if you neglect everything and work on a one project a time scedule. Where are the things such as pay item shops? downloadable expansion packs and even subscription priviledges? Graal is dead on its arse and unless an experienced determined and motivated person comes along it will remain that way.

Seriously guys we only want something new. Personally at the moment i have been playing a new game and you know what they did? they released an expansion pack for free which over 50+ bug fixes and over 100 new npc and 45 new set items! and lots of new levels and it is free to play. and they are scedules to release a new expansion pack only jsut a month after it was released. So tell me graal...what exactly are you doing for us?

Lets make a little game of our own about this.
Answer this guys..
1) What are you doing for us?
2) Why should we actually stay?
3) How far along are you with your latest projects?

If you can answer these questions and not cacoon us in a web of lies as usual then i suppose i may just stick around a little longer.
I mean i know having your game go downhill on you must be bad for you staff as well but lets face it. Us subscribers are the reason you have a game at all and we demand a lot more on offer.

In the meantime i'm going back to pirate king online. So uhm i suppose those questions will be completed by hmm next year?
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:07 PM
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We were promised so many things and none of them came true.
and the ones that did weren't so great.
Where is this revolutionary flying system hmm?
I don't know why you're so hostile - you always have been. It really irritates me.


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Instead of working on something as great and beneficial to all servers like so you work on Graal 3D which is a waste of time considering there are bigger and better games inclusing world of warcraft, pirate king online and so many other big titles. Graal 3D does not stand a chance.
You don't know what they're working on. How do you know they're not working on updates for the game engine as a whole?

Also, as a side not - I imagine Graal 3D will be customizable in much of the same fashion as Graal 2D is... player content, etc.


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Want to know why us players travelled to graal? Because it was a different game from the others and a change in gaming experience
Graal is only different because of it's rudimentary graphics style, and player generated content - what makes this different from games like Second Life is that, instead of making for the individual, the game has been made for the masses.

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now you are trying to phase this out and compete with a bigger and better game genre which frankly you do not have the experience or funding to manage.
How old are you? Not old enough to have a business degree, or a education in economy.

So, really, where do you get off saying this trash?


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If you staff guys seriously think graal is capable of such a change then good luck but monthly subscriptions ain't gonna get you far if you neglect everything and work on a one project a time scedule. Where are the things such as pay item shops? downloadable expansion packs and even subscription priviledges? Graal is dead on its arse and unless an experienced determined and motivated person comes along it will remain that way.
I'm getting the sneaking suspicion you're inadvertently trying to plug yourself here.

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Seriously guys we only want something new. Personally at the moment i have been playing a new game and you know what they did? they released an expansion pack for free which over 50+ bug fixes and over 100 new npc and 45 new set items! and lots of new levels and it is free to play. and they are scedules to release a new expansion pack only jsut a month after it was released.
I'm sure that if Stefan made a list of the bugs he fixes on Graal, and new items released, it would be... a lot more than that lol


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So tell me graal...what exactly are you doing for us?

Lets make a little game of our own about this.
Answer this guys..
1) What are you doing for us?
2) Why should we actually stay?
3) How far along are you with your latest projects?
1) Providing the content you have previously enjoyed for others to enjoy.
2) Anticipation of new content, or to create new content.
3) They won't even tell me

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If you can answer these questions and not cacoon us in a web of lies as usual
This has to be quoted separately simply for how absurd it is.

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then i suppose i may just stick around a little longer.
I am not suggesting it, but does it not make sense to you to stop subscribing (if you're having so much trouble here) - and perhaps subscribe later on when new stuff is made?


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I mean i know having your game go downhill on you must be bad for you staff as well but lets face it. Us subscribers are the reason you have a game at all and we demand a lot more on offer.
Uhh... Unixmad has had new staff in the office for the past while, a whole team, working on Graal 3D and other new content.

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In the meantime i'm going back to pirate king online.
kk ttyl.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:28 PM
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Instead of working on something as great and beneficial to all servers like so you work on Graal 3D which is a waste of time considering there are bigger and better games inclusing world of warcraft, pirate king online and so many other big titles. Graal 3D does not stand a chance.
I don't know what you are talking about but I worked on Graal3D before and I loved it. I can hardly wait for it. Then again, I seem to be very opposite to the general Graalian's liking for Graal as I like complex neat things rather then simple classic servers (thus I always struggle to find other developers like me).

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Want to know why us players travelled to graal? Because it was a different game from the others and a change in gaming experience and now you are trying to phase this out and compete with a bigger and better game genre which frankly you do not have the experience or funding to manage.
You don't speak for the Graal population as a whole and certainly don't speak for me.

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Lets make a little game of our own about this.
Answer this guys..
1) What are you doing for us?
2) Why should we actually stay?
3) How far along are you with your latest projects?
1) Who is "you"?
2) I think you should direct that question towards the people that still do stay. Why do they stay? I don't think anyone really has an answer to it... People (like my self) just feel stuck to this game.

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In the meantime i'm going back to pirate king online. So uhm i suppose those questions will be completed by hmm next year?
Bye. You really don't need to be here if you are going to be so cynical.
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