New kingdom leaders

Ravenblade1979 · #1 04-02-2007, 04:39 PM

Everyone sees the problem with the kingdoms these days. Their rulers aren't active enough. Take Samurai for instance. Stroms only on for kingdom debug but i don't see him on tag doing kingdom stuff. What about Zormite? Where is Drakeero or the person who is supposed to be making sure that ppl are active and adding new ppl Uri. What about CP and Alan..he's barely on.

I know some of these people have lives but if you are expecting not to be online for a while give it over to someone else so the kingdom can still be active.

These kingdoms should call a general election if they feel that their Emperor/Empress, King/queen, Governor/Governess aren't on enough. The kingdoms can be so much more then they are now.

Your opinion?

No flaming me for bringing up a good point or to see if you can get a rise out of me.

Oops just realized i misnamed the topic..sorry.

MadScience7 · #2 04-02-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

What about CP and Alan..he's barely on.

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You didn't have a problem with my activity last weekend, when I was on helping you kick Samurai's rear

Seriously, if there is a consensus to remove kingdom leaders for inactivity, you should look at at a couple month period or long term participation history. Anyone can have a week or two of challenging real life, but the people who keep coming back consistently every time are the ideal ones to have as leaders. Picking someone who is on many hours each day for the past month or two sounds easy, but a lot of the time those people burn out and just quit. That's my two cents.

Ravenblade1979 · #3 04-02-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7

You didn't have a problem with my activity last weekend, when I was on helping you kick Samurai's rear

Seriously, if there is a consensus to remove kingdom leaders for inactivity, you should look at at a couple month period or long term participation history. Anyone can have a week or two of challenging real life, but the people who keep coming back consistently every time are the ideal ones to have as leaders. Picking someone who is on many hours each day for the past month or two sounds easy, but a lot of the time those people burn out and just quit. That's my two cents.

Personally I heard you weren't gonna take part in that event. I agree a couple months would be good. Odd that you would reply..lol

Waltz5 · #4 04-02-2007, 09:29 PM

I'll say it again... give kingdoms islands to battle over with minor kickbacks.

The leaders are not "active" because there is no reason to be.

MasterNuke · #5 04-02-2007, 09:37 PM

Are there even enough people to occupy five kingdoms?

SayianOozaru · #6 04-02-2007, 09:55 PM

Doesn't GK's player count stay below 40 or so? ( I usually only see 40 and less on.)

Googi · #7 04-02-2007, 09:59 PM

Tell me you won't accept any offers from the staff to replace a kingdom leader and I'll start taking you seriously.

OasaTor_PK · #8 04-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Oasa to rule them all!

Stephen · #9 04-02-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Tell me you won't accept any offers from the staff to replace a kingdom leader and I'll start taking you seriously.

Are you as excited as me? I'm going to lead Zormite again!

Lylic · #10 04-02-2007, 11:17 PM

Strom is currently banned, some guy edited a photo so he was saying something racist.

MajinDragon · #11 04-02-2007, 11:22 PM

I don't know why screenshots are taken that seriously these days as editting is very easy and many people are capable of it.

Lylic · #12 04-02-2007, 11:46 PM

Yes, Strom is active. Anyways, we have the great Shelly taking care of Samurai also. CP is also a very active kingdom, Alan gets on whenever he has time.

Crow · #13 04-03-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lylic

Strom is currently banned, some guy edited a photo so he was saying something racist.

Are you damn serious?._.

Fraszle · #14 04-03-2007, 12:30 AM

Yes, It shouldn't of been done. Even though these posts will probably be deleted, because we shouldn't talk about bans on forums.

cbk1994 · #15 04-03-2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lylic

edited a photo

That's impossible!

kenyonandelliot · #16 04-03-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Are there even enough people to occupy five kingdoms?

No.. More then 75% of the kingdom's rosters are inactive

cbk1994 · #17 04-03-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot

No.. More then 75% of the kingdom's rosters are inactive

More like 95%

Lylic · #18 04-03-2007, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot

No.. More then 75% of the kingdom's rosters are inactive

Those are members, not Kingdom Leaders. kthx

jonnyrocks2 · #19 04-03-2007, 04:52 AM

I'll dump you guys the reason again...We have a bloody life outside of Graal, you have to expect when life goes "HA NO GAME TIME FOR YOU!"

Look, you people need to realize:

A.) Its impossible for us to make time for all of you when we have to do stuff at that time...
B.) College will suck the unholy gods out of your time...
C.) YOU try and do Graal, Real Life, and Work at the same time.
D.) You can't deal with us being unable to be there for you all the time, then tough luck, we would love to be there, but real life says "NO." Especially if its that boss thats giving you money for working at the job...Thats basically a "Job>YOU" thing...so...thats all I got to say.

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As a side note, my work times are EXTREMELY odd...before Ravenblade asks...Yes, I pretty much do tech. support...Now before I start going ballistic, I'm hitting save.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Are you as excited as me? I'm going to lead Zormite again!

Nah, you just miss when I'm on...Drakeero should be back starting Tuesday.

Waltz5 · #20 04-03-2007, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

blah blah I'm busy rant

I don't think anyone would argue with you on that. A large majority of the community fits right into that category. The main problem people have is the lack of "stuff" or additions going on, not the online time.

Honestly, I think the upper management should be the ones under the microscope *cough*Player Manager*cough*. Then you can work your way down.

But they'll never get the clue, even with GK not topping 30 players online for the majority of the day, daily.

jonnyrocks2 · #21 04-03-2007, 06:24 AM

Actually, I was responding to the very first post of this topic...Ravenblade...take a few days off, and rethink that post...
You have NO idea how much you sound like people that want their leader on more, when they can't be due to real life. =/

kenyonandelliot · #22 04-03-2007, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

Drakeero should be back starting Tuesday.

All I wanted to here

Googi · #23 04-03-2007, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

You have NO idea how much you sound like people that want to be leader

Fixed.

Ravenblade1979 · #24 04-03-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

You have NO idea how much you sound like people that want their leader on more, when they can't be due to real life. =/

I am not in a kingdom and frankly if you were on more you would see the kingdoms are basically dead. Who cares if the members go on..its the leaders I hear complaints about more then anything.

And before you respond. I know people have jobs/school etc but there are a lot of people who still come on who are in school/work/irl life stuff.

I think basically I want to get across that a lot of people are feeling that their kingdom leaders don't care enough so why should they? This is GRAAL KINGDOMS. Notice the Kingdoms part. A few people on a day on tag don't make a kingdom. Their leaders also need to be on too. If even a few times a week.

Heck there are times I needed to talk to you Uri about kingdom members but your either on msn afk or just won't answer. Your supposed to be in charge while Drakeero is pounding on his internet providers bald heads ((lol)). I know you have a life too but usually I see you on everyday.

I would just like to see the kingdom leaders more active is all. Or again based on a certain timeframe (thanks for the idea Alan) a new kingdom leader being brought into power. As someone said to me "The kingdom leaders (King/Queen, Emperor/Empress, Governor/Governess) are so comfortable sitting in their position that they won't do anything".

I should point this out Alan that its not specifically at you. I know you do stuff but this person said this as a general thing.

jonnyrocks2 · #25 04-03-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I know you have a life too but usually I see you on everyday.

Usually MSN switches to "Online" on its own...

I come back after what? A hour? Four hours? and the damn thing says "Online." >.>

Meh.

Yea...the Kingdoms are getting more pointless by the second...something needs to be done about the falling number of players, and something needs to be done...Now.

Not later, not next year, Now.

Also, I'll try to leave a message around for when I'll be MIA from Graal. x.x

Ravenblade1979 · #26 04-03-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

Yea...the Kingdoms are getting more pointless by the second...something needs to be done about the falling number of players, and something needs to be done...Now.

Maybe its time the kingdom leaders/recruiters get together and hold a "Recruiting Fair" ((like a job fair type deal)) to get more interest.

jonnyrocks2 · #27 04-03-2007, 08:18 AM

Sounds good to me...but even then, its not going to do much with 30 players thats already in a Kingdom, or have no interest in being with a kingdom. =/

Taikun · #28 04-03-2007, 11:21 AM

Is i've been saying for a long time now, there should only be two kingdoms. For example, Kingdom A and Kingdom B, this would mean there would always be wars between the two kingdoms. It would be a much bigger battle and kingdom rivalry (or w/e its called) would be much bigger, I strongly feel this would work but as usual nothing will happen of this idea..

cyan3 · #29 04-03-2007, 12:41 PM

Many of you think that the gk player base is low and kingdoms are not active but i got prove that at sometimes the gk player count can be high.

This was taken a few weeks ago and it shows that kingdoms are active at times.

Ravenblade1979 · #30 04-03-2007, 03:17 PM

Felix we know it can be but it fluctuates badly. for a week there could be good activity then the next month very few on and we both know this.

Butz · #31 04-03-2007, 03:37 PM

I know it's been mentioned a few times in here, but really, even if the kingdom leaders were around more often, what would they do? Sit around trade and talk with the other members? Idly shout "greetings" across toguilds?

The problem is that there really isn't anything for kingdoms to do rather than start wars with each other, which doesn't always happen because people complain about other people overpowering them, or people don't show up, or blah blah blah.

The sad thing is that role playing is all but dead around GK. Back in the early days of GK, it was a whole lot of fun, and there was some sort of consistency as far as the role playing atmosphere was concerned. As time went on, and people started to leave, this fell apart and the best we can get nowadays are ridiculous stories where people are advised to bring a helmet, in case of surprise rock slides inside the tavern.

This can't really be blamed on inactive Kingdom leaders completely though. Part of the problem is that there have been no major world updates to the Graalian Archipelago in a long time. People have literally done everything that there is to do. Haunted houses, treasure maps, and Lord hunting can only keep one busy for so long.

So perhaps there needs to be a reason for people to stick around before we start pointing fingers at those who aren't around all the time.

hampy · #32 04-03-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

Is i've been saying for a long time now, there should only be two kingdoms. For example, Kingdom A and Kingdom B, this would mean there would always be wars between the two kingdoms. It would be a much bigger battle and kingdom rivalry (or w/e its called) would be much bigger, I strongly feel this would work but as usual nothing will happen of this idea..

I second this

jonnyrocks2 · #33 04-03-2007, 06:55 PM

Problem already seen with Taikun's idea.

You STILL get the problem of lack of people showing up...or people refusing to come on tag, etc.

Then there will be administration abuse, like usual.

sage_scooby · #34 04-03-2007, 09:28 PM

I'll just wait until summer when schools let out. Then it gets a little more active again.

Ravenblade1979 · #35 04-03-2007, 10:07 PM

Course it will probably be more active.

kenyonandelliot · #36 04-04-2007, 12:15 AM

Hopefully.. If there isn't a population rise in the Summer I'll probaly just play VG the whole summer.

Davidd · #37 04-04-2007, 12:50 AM

I think there is few problems, not with the number of kingdomes, but the reason why we should put tag on. People would want to be on tag alot more if they could have like a personal advantage. Another idea is to create some sorte of realistic role play.

Example: All kingdomes have there own unique armor, wepon, etc. That they can have ONLY when on tag. SO than you could clearly see the difference between people. Depending on the rank you would have different wepon or armor. If there tag become off there armory goes away, but is saved. So when they put there tag back on, they could still have a +12 armor and a persanalize wepon. NO items IN ANY SURCOMSTENCE can be traded even with other guild members. They are personalize to one persone.

Another Example: Doing a job for the Kingdom: If you are a warrior or guard or whatever. You can do a job of guarding the castle, spy on kingdom, steal from kingdom, do some damage,etc. While doing this job you will be paid a decent ammount so the player ould be like: SWEET DIAS! or something like that. And so on...

I have some other ideas but im not bothering to post them if your not interested. Yes it will be alot of work but the Kingdoms would be popular again

Questions comment ideas?

Fraszle · #38 04-04-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Davidd

I think there is few problems, not with the number of kingdomes, but the reason why we should put tag on. People would want to be on tag alot more if they could have like a personal advantage. Another idea is to create some sorte of realistic role play.

Example: All kingdomes have there own unique armor, wepon, etc. That they can have ONLY when on tag. SO than you could clearly see the difference between people. Depending on the rank you would have different wepon or armor. If there tag become off there armory goes away, but is saved. So when they put there tag back on, they could still have a +12 armor and a persanalize wepon. NO items IN ANY SURCOMSTENCE can be traded even with other guild members. They are personalize to one persone.

Another Example: Doing a job for the Kingdom: If you are a warrior or guard or whatever. You can do a job of guarding the castle, spy on kingdom, steal from kingdom, do some damage,etc. While doing this job you will be paid a decent ammount so the player ould be like: SWEET DIAS! or something like that. And so on...

I have some other ideas but im not bothering to post them if your not interested. Yes it will be alot of work but the Kingdoms would be popular again

Questions comment ideas?

Getting most of your ideas from Mal, I see, also you have like fifty words that are spelled incorrectly in that sentence.

cyan3 · #39 04-04-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Davidd

All kingdomes have there own unique armor, wepon, etc.

That idea has came up many times if you look around you will see lots of threads about that same sudject.

sage_scooby · #40 04-04-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidd

.....Example: All kingdomes have there own unique armor, wepon, etc. That they can have ONLY when on tag.......
Questions comment ideas?

The only issue I have with this is. If the armour for each kingdom isn't the same. The kingdom with the most appealing stas on their armour will get the most players.