Forum Manager?

[Tyhm]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

You did not pay for only the forums. There is not an option for that, and I would say the same to you as I just did to excaliber.

So the shave-ice vendor in Disneyland can show up drunk, now? After all, they didn't pay just to see the shave-ice vendor. The ride attendants can air their opinions on minorities (or for that matter safely stop smiling in public under any circumstances)?

Not the best point ever...just because the Forums aren't Graal's Primary selling point doesn't remove them from the equation. It's like doing a crap job on the cupholders because nobody buys the car for the cupholders.

The way I'm seeing things Now, you told Unixmad "Hey guy, they want the memberlist enabled." and he said "Why?" and logged off. And based on that, the matter is no longer up for discussion. Which makes it rather difficult for me to figure out whose initials are in my feedback ratingses, as I now have to scour the forum until I find a user whose name roughly matches...when the vast majority (or vocal minority, if you want to count idling users against the average) want to see Moonie take responsibility for (and control of) the forum decisions. Again - we don't have a forum admin, we have a forum automaton.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Just because some paying customers do not get everything they want, does not mean the company does not respect them.

If our suggestions, those of the entire active userbase on these forums, want change, and you don't, it shows you think nothing of us, and you don't respect us. It's plain and obvious.

You did not pay for only the forums. There is not an option for that, and I would say the same to you as I just did to excaliber.

It's the actions I've seen expressed on these forums that made me decide not to upgrade. It's how you treat us that drove my business away, and I'm not the only one.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Infernix

Would it be illegal for me to make these two post apart of my sig?

If you are asked to remove it, yes...Sam nor I either one want quotes by us in members sigs, so you will be asked to remove it.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

If our suggestions, those of the entire active userbase on these forums, want change, and you don't, it shows you think nothing of us, and you don't respect us. It's plain and obvious.

I have only seen a few members complaining. Ever thought that maybe more don't sign up is because of some of these active members actions? Think about that.

[zell12]

Darlene posted...I have only seen a few members complaining. Ever thought that maybe more don't sign up is because of some of these active members actions? Think about that.

Ever think they don't sign up because of people telling them it's not worth it? Or because of the actions of the moderators? hmmmmm

I see a lot more people playing the client, then posting on here. Or even showing up once or twice. I'd bet a shiny silver dollar that the actions are generally the same in the client (probably worse) than on the forums.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by zell12

Ever think they don't sign up because of people telling them it's not worth it? Or because of the actions of the moderators? hmmmmm

There are two sides to every coin. It cannot be said that no one signs up or posts on the forums because of the way it is moderated.

I'd bet a shiny silver dollar that the actions are generally the same in the client (probably worse) than on the forums.

I am positive of that. Why do you think I hardly play the game anymore, or Manage a server?

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am positive of that. Why do you think I hardly play the game anymore, or Manage a server?

So cleaning up the forums, which is supposed to be an added feature to the game is a fruitful endeavor, while worrying about the game itself is not?

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by zell12

So why would players not sign up on the forums, yet still play the game? You make no sense.

I wouldn't know without asking every single one of them, that's my point. I don't make assumptions based on a few members.

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

So cleaning up the forums, which is supposed to be an added feature to the game is a fruitful endeavor, while worrying about the game itself is not?

I cannot do anything about the game.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

The way I'm seeing things Now, you told Unixmad "Hey guy, they want the memberlist enabled." and he said "Why?" and logged off. And based on that, the matter is no longer up for discussion. Which makes it rather difficult for me to figure out whose initials are in my feedback ratingses, as I now have to scour the forum until I find a user whose name roughly matches...when the vast majority (or vocal minority, if you want to count idling users against the average) want to see Moonie take responsibility for (and control of) the forum decisions. Again - we don't have a forum admin, we have a forum automaton.

Why do people make assumptions? Members had voiced the wanted the option. I sent the links to Unixmad, and he said flat out "no".
End of discussion? Yes, because they are his forums.
You know, some of you expect me to fight the owner for some things that you want, whether I believe in them or not, which is unfair.
You can consider me not an administrator, because I'm not really. Never really thought of it before, but the only administrator is the one who has complete control over the forums, which I do not. Not even close.

I can't help it that I respect the owners wishes when it comes to this game and these boards. Respect for other people and their property is a big part of who I am.