true question

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Do you know why you're sent to the support center? Ever thought of that?

To deal with problems. Now think logically: What would players think about when they intend to complain about the current state of the support centre:
"hmm I shall use what I perceive to be an inefficient system to complain about it's inefficiency!"

or

"Perhaps I can bring this up in the forums in a hope some nice and well thought about arguments / discussions occur on the subject."

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Twinny

To deal with problems. Now think logically: What would players think about when they intend to complain about the current state of the support centre:
"hmm I shall use what I perceive to be an inefficient system to complain about it's inefficiency!"

or

"Perhaps I can bring this up in the forums in a hope some nice and well thought about arguments / discussions occur on the subject."

The support center is currently your best way of getting help from the people that can actually help you unless you have personal contacts with Stefan, unixmad, and/or Ibonic.


You're basically asked for the administration to devote their lives to reading the forums (more in-depth then they current do), which isn't logical nor realistic.

[coreys]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The support center is currently your best way of getting help from the people that can actually help you unless you have personal contacts with Stefan, unixmad, and/or Ibonic.

If thats the best way, then that must mean that you get no response ever in all of eternity with the other methods.

[konidias]

Originally Posted by coreys

SHUT THE **** UP ALREADY. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE. THIS IS SO GOD DAMN UNRELATED.

God, I wish there was an ignore function I could use to ignore Gambets posts.

Actually, all of you shut up.

Go into someone's profile, there is an option to add them to your Ignore list.

Here's a link to add Gambet:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...=ignore&u=3132

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The support center is currently your best way of getting help from the people that can actually help you unless you have personal contacts with Stefan, unixmad, and/or Ibonic.

I know Stefan reads these forums. Moonie definitely does and she can have influence.

The point it Gambet, don't be so quick to shut down everything. Give ideas a chance. You're too fast to dismiss any persons thought with a dismissive insult aimed at their intelligence compared to your own.

I don't mind these forums as long as personal insults are left out, bashing doesn't occur and pure ignorance is left out as well. Well thought out ideas with informative responses are good.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by coreys

If thats the best way, then that must mean that you get no response ever in all of eternity with the other methods.

When Stefan gets on a server, he gets 2130123012302130 PMs.

Chances are, he'll miss a few important PMs due to all of the crap PMs that he gets with people bothering him.

He doesn't use email, though he PROBABLY has some form of a chat messenging system, but obviously he wouldn't give it to anyone (at least I know unixmad has ICQ).


Stefan probably also gets countless forum PMs a day, most of which he doesn't even read since I have a few PMs that have been unread for years now.


I mean really, the Graal administration just isn't big enough, nor do they have to cash to have a professional team.

[Infernix]

Ive deleted my own post regarding Gambet in order to make an effort to bring the thread back on topic. Id request others do the same.

[Twinny]

Perhaps the suggestion about the empowerment of the current forum administrator is a good idea then. If Moonie can make decisions based on what she thinks is best for all, it's less to worry about for Unixmad / Stefan.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Infernix

Ive deleted my own post regarding Gambet in order to make an effort to bring the thread back on topic. Id request others do the same.

Yeah, a few posts too late there, pal.

Originally Posted by Twinny

Perhaps the suggestion about the empowerment of the current forum administrator is a good idea then. If Moonie can make decisions based on what she thinks is best for all, it's less to worry about for Unixmad / Stefan.

There are issues that Ibonic can't even handle, why would they give more rights to Moonie, who isn't even a global?

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

There are issues that Ibonic can't even handle, why would they give more rights to Moonie, who isn't even a global?

Empowerment as a forum administrator. Moonie has said countless times she often needs to get Unixmad's approval for actions. If these requests are repetitive in nature, perhaps Moonie could receive empowerment for these actions so she does not need to wait/disturb Unixmad. This would not extend very far at all beyond the forums.

One idea to promote change and development in this forum.

[zell12]

Moonie, since we are all sharing our opinions here, what is YOUR opinion on the rules, and the actions of moderators? Feel free to PM me if you do not wish to discuss it publicly.


Koni, you keep posting the same thing over and over again, no one is listening to you. Thanks.\

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what else.... Excal my brother, your sig is too red. :P

[Crono]

I must say im quite happy this thread is still up.

And you people said no progress was going to be made, pfft. This thread is walking proof.

[Andy0687]

Can we get some moderation on Gambet I think in this thread he has called us "stupid" "idiotic" and "retarted" isnt that worse then *****, that should be 3 infractions and a ban, but then again im not a moderator.

I dunno what else to say, I really dont. I feel like im fighting a battle I know im going to lose here but I feel its also importaint that everyone gets to voice their opinion otherwise there is no chance for improvement at all.

[Crono]

James, the best way to report someone is just copy paste their posts and PM moonie. Trust me it works all the time.

Also Gambet why you always gotta spoil our fun?

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Also Gambet why you always gotta spoil our fun?

And the chance for any change to occur as a result of this thread.