Work in Progress Level... - Page 2

Crono · #41 12-13-2006, 04:28 PM

What's your old account? Also tile errors.

Map looks good so far.

WanDaMan · #42 12-13-2006, 07:47 PM

Very impressive! Keep it up =D!

You're never on MSN either... lol

maximus_asinus · #43 12-13-2006, 11:12 PM

You're OneStonedKittah right?

Also, in my opinion, you have quite a bit of errors in your screenshot. The cliffing can be done with a different style, and would give the diagnol parts of the cliff a more fluid motion.

I also seen some tile errors (the majority of which were pointed out by Crono).

You're making some good progress, continue and show us your progress.

Devil · #44 12-14-2006, 12:41 AM

I like the start of it, keep it up.

Kittah · #45 12-14-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

What's your old account? Also tile errors.

Map looks good so far.

Old account is 'Pooka' - I searched for threads I'd started and saw some 4 year-old levels and lolled, I was such a n00b sometimes

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

You're OneStonedKittah right?

That I am - I feel special to be recognised

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Also, in my opinion, you have quite a bit of errors in your screenshot. The cliffing can be done with a different style, and would give the diagnol parts of the cliff a more fluid motion.

I'd be interesting to see an example so I can understand what you mean. The cliffs are a bit of a departure from my usual in that I'm going in sets of two if you can see what I mean. It does make them look somewhat more diagonal, but it means I don't have tile errors along the lines of what Crono pointed out (with the clifftop tiles not matching on one side, yet if it's changed to an alternative tile it doesn't match on the other side, with the solution being to use both in sets of two).

I've actually gone back and redone the double-level cliff joinings with the more correct tiles. I usually don't as I feel it makes it look a bit odd and (as I recall, though i could be mistaken) makes some cliff joins look odd, though I think I may have grown to actually like the look.

Anyway, update for the map with the sort of peninsula bit jutting out as a pointer for where I'm planning to dump a small island

maximus_asinus · #46 12-14-2006, 07:20 PM

Your preview level retiled in the style I prefer. Is this how you usually tile your cliffs? This style gives the diagonal cliffing a more fluid motion, as I said earlier, plus it gives you more options when you're detailing a level (you can make nooks and crannies along the side of the cliff easier, etc).

Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say

Crono · #47 12-14-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say

It looks OK in that screenshot but a huge ass mountain stacked with those tiles is horribly ugly and can't see why anyone would disagree.

Luda · #48 12-15-2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

It looks OK in that screenshot but a huge ass mountain stacked with those tiles is horribly ugly and can't see why anyone would disagree.

I find the other way more ugly

Devil · #49 12-15-2006, 12:25 AM

I actually like those cliffs, anyone have a screenshot of the other way?

Chompy · #50 12-15-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

I actually like those cliffs, anyone have a screenshot of the other way?

Devil · #51 12-15-2006, 12:40 AM

I don't see the difference between the top post of this page, and that link provided, unless I'm an idiot.

maximus_asinus · #52 12-15-2006, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

I don't see the difference between the top post of this page, and that link provided, unless I'm an idiot.

The changes are quite obvious, so yes you are an idiot. Sorry.

Devil · #53 12-15-2006, 01:00 AM

Oh ok I see where, there is differences between the 2, in the middle of the cliffs where they join. =/

Who ****ing cares.

maximus_asinus · #54 12-15-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Oh ok I see where, there is differences between the 2, in the middle of the cliffs where they join. =/

Who ****ing cares.

You still aren't seeing the bigger change.

Devil · #55 12-15-2006, 01:04 AM

Maybe I don't care

Crono · #56 12-15-2006, 02:19 AM

The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

Kittah · #57 12-15-2006, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Your preview level retiled in the style I prefer. Is this how you usually tile your cliffs? This style gives the diagonal cliffing a more fluid motion, as I said earlier, plus it gives you more options when you're detailing a level (you can make nooks and crannies along the side of the cliff easier, etc).

Also Crono and a few others dislike this style of cliffing apparently, so don't listen to what they have to say

That's exactly how I went back and redid the level as mentioned in my previous post

They are the 'official' tiles for the job I suppose, though I'm not always sure on how they look. I think I'm with Crono in that for a single join they look quite good, though for anything larger it just wouldn't look right, far too repetitive in a contrasting way I think (the tiles are much lighter than the other method, so stand out repetitively).

Anyway, hopefully I'll have the coastal cliffwork finished tonight and perhaps some more of the inland cliffs laid out.

Devil · #58 12-15-2006, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

Ok sure, yes, I like the left better.

bgumeny · #59 12-15-2006, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

I think the left flows better, but the right one is nice when used tastefully like in the post at the top of this page. And Kittah your map looks pretty good so far, can't wait to see more progress.

And good luck in Japan, I had a Japanese roommate for a while and it was quite a difficult language to keep up with.

400th post, hooray?

Crono · #60 12-15-2006, 02:16 PM

If your cliff splits and your cliff is large it would look like the right one in the end. Classic has a perfect example of cliffing at it's ugliest (and yet proper) using those tiles. Thats why I'm against them, they are ugly.

Kittah · #61 12-15-2006, 04:07 PM

Update!

Finished up the existing cliffs and coastlines. The plateau in the northeast will have at least another level or two added to it, likely with snow at the top.

Anyway enjoy

Crono · #62 12-15-2006, 04:29 PM

Looks good so far. Now let's see some detail.

maximus_asinus · #63 12-15-2006, 07:47 PM

Err... one part of the cliff looks like it stops abruptly. See attachment.

WanDaMan · #64 12-15-2006, 08:27 PM

I really like it so far! are you planning this map or is it just random?

Kittah · #65 12-16-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Err... one part of the cliff looks like it stops abruptly. See attachment.

Yeah, I noticed that after I said 'all of the cliff work is finished' but couldn't be bothered editing the post, it'll get done

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I really like it so far! are you planning this map or is it just random?

Thanks, it's kind of evolving as I go. If you remember the generated map had only 1/4 of it with water so that's a bit of a change. From there I'm just letting it grow how I like it. That's probably why I'll leave detailing until the end, as I don't like adding things in after I've detailed levels... it's not like it's more difficult so I guess it's just an odd habit of mine.

Devil · #66 12-17-2006, 02:10 AM

Yay more progress, I can't wait to see some towns.

Kittah · #67 12-22-2006, 07:49 AM

Apologies for the lack of progress all, but you know how the leadup to Christmas is. I did finish that bit of cliffwork that maximus_asinus pointed out though!

WanDaMan · #68 12-22-2006, 08:45 AM

Woah, it's looking very nice! Keep it up!!

Crow · #69 12-22-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

The left side is the style I like, the right one is what max and luda are suggesting.

Honestly, which one looks better?

The right one is cooler when you only use it for one row in your cliffs :o

maximus_asinus · #70 12-22-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

The right one is cooler when you only use it for one row in your cliffs :o

Exactly what I thought when I looked at the screenshot.

Crono · #71 12-22-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Exactly what I thought when I looked at the screenshot.

But you did it on Classic -_-

Kittah · #72 12-23-2006, 10:14 AM

Island added. I may add another smaller one off to the side, though I'm not sure. I'm kind of starting to experience Leveller's Block as such, not being sure of what to add where... I guess I'll let it take me where/as it sees fit

Crono · #73 12-23-2006, 05:13 PM

Finish the foresting and get some detail done. I usually get ideas while im doing that for what to add later. Or under the cliff you can add a kind of beach or something.

syltburk · #74 12-23-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittah

Apologies for the lack of progress all, but you know how the leadup to Christmas is. I did finish that bit of cliffwork that maximus_asinus pointed out though!

it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Mykel · #75 12-24-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by syltburk

it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Which is weird considering it's better than anything I've ever seen you post. :o

Rapidwolve · #76 12-24-2006, 02:43 AM

Add Details now!!

I like it

Kittah · #77 12-24-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by syltburk

it sucks, sorry but thats just IMO.

Go away. You evidently have nothing better to do, but... just go away regardless.

You're the forum troll that manages to hang around, right? Grow up.

Crono · #78 12-24-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kittah

You're the forum troll that manages to hang around, right? Grow up.

He used to be a LAT and doesn't really like anyone. I don't know what he does today.

Kittah · #79 02-27-2007, 10:41 AM

As always seems to happen, I was interrupted in my work. Suffice to say with moving into a new apartment (ie. not having internet access), starting a new job and having a baby due any week now I was rather side-tracked.

I've been doing a bit of doodling with it here and there however and there's a slight bit of progress... I'll post said progress when I get home. Unfortunately it's made me realise several problems I've created for myself over so long-term a project and I've started something new which will likely sidetrack me even moreso - but now I'm just babbling.

Kittah · #80 09-11-2007, 05:54 AM

Considering the last time I updated a long-abandoned work someone told me I should bump the old thread, I figured I'd do it with this one. Update!