Official Graal Corruption Thread

Warcaptain · #1 07-04-2001, 10:07 AM

Only certain things in graal are corrupt.

Etc:
Not going to name names, but certain people in graal get what they want and are treated much differently.

I heard a high admin tell me once (Edited to protect innocent):

"XXXXXXXX is different than other PW Owners, its fine if he has 2, I doubt stefan would give you two though, your not like XXXXXXXX"

That my friend is corrupt, the fact that that person would be allowed to have another pw and I wouldnt be allowed to is not fair.

Of course I cant say its 100% true because Stefan himself didnt tell me, but I bet 20 gralat it is.

Also, a certain someone, who also is a PW Owner, gets credit for many of my ideas.

Eg: I suggested 5 ideas to stefan in a PM for new script commands, they appeared in the new version, and I told someone I came up with it and they told me "No XXXXXXXX did"

I was angry at that, cuz I also bet 20 gralat that I was heard, and just ignored and that PW owner heard me because he is "better" than I am at scripting, or at least in the GAT (Graal Administration Team's) eyes.

I admit I am not the best scripter, but when I do do something good, darnit I want ot get credit for it, not some 2 bit Admin who steals my ideas. Im sure he didnt know he did, but he did.

And even when you think its over, there is more.

The larges issue of corruptness is P2P.

::takes deap breath::

For the most part, if your not p2p, you dont get half the assistance you need. If there is a problem on your server, you dont get the help you need in a legitimate ammount of time. But if you're p2p, things seem to go magicly faster. I wish somehow this could be explained to me...

And even more, Stefan baisicly adds 95% new scripting commands that only p2p servers can use, this also goes back to that anonymous pw owner that so graciously gives ideas to stefan, (im guessing) only suggests p2p commands, since he himself has a p2p server. So unless some of us Free server owners take action (no dont revolt, just think of decent new commands, and lets see how many of them are added, and if not, what rediculous excuse is made. Or better yet, if we (we=the free pw owners) suggest things and Mr. Anonymous gets credit (as usual). Since we free server owners are not capable of making decent commands for Graal, only Admin's like Mr.Anonymous are capable of doing it.

Well lets just hope everyone doesnt take this the wrong way.
hehe maybe no one will care, but at least I got it off my mind.

fugitive316 · #2 07-04-2001, 10:13 AM

Didn't someone just make a thread about how tired they were of hearing people complaining about corruption?

freddyfox · #3 07-04-2001, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by fugitive316
Didn't someone just make a thread about how tired they were of hearing people complaining about corruption?

The clue bus is slow on Warcaptain's route.

SkooL · #4 07-04-2001, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
Stefan baisicly adds 95% new scripting commands that only p2p servers can use.

P2P PW = Money needed to play
Free PW = No money needed to play
Why help out servers that aren't making you any money?

Neonight · #5 07-04-2001, 10:25 AM

I agree 100% with War. He has a point. Another person I know (XXXXXXXXX) created hunting with spears and told another X guy. He sent it in to Stefan (fully scripted and it kicks arse) and the person he gave it to got credit -_- This happened to me also and it's just not right. The p2p I also agree with. Think about it. There are a helluva lotta people who have all of Graal2001 scripts (including myself) and we can "dumb them down" (I'll say) to work on free servers. I see fantastic NPCs on p2p servers. Great ganis. It just makes me mad, Stefan, you don't care as much as the game you used to. Now it's just money :-(

CrazedMerlin · #6 07-04-2001, 10:25 AM

I hate people who suck up to playerworld owners.

SkooL · #7 07-04-2001, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
Stefan, you don't care as much as the game you used to. Now it's just money :-(

I don't like working for free, Stefan probably doesn't like to work for free, do you?

fugitive316 · #8 07-04-2001, 10:27 AM

I hate people who miss the clue bus

CrazedMerlin · #9 07-04-2001, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by fugitive316
I hate people who miss the clue bus

*honk*

(((

BruceLee2000 · #10 07-04-2001, 10:28 AM

my graal is not corrupt it runs just fine

Neonight · #11 07-04-2001, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by SkooL

I don't like working for free, Stefan probably doesn't like to work for free, do you?

I'll be damned if I'm gonna milk kids' parents for money

fugitive316 · #12 07-04-2001, 10:29 AM

Bah Stefan, Unixmad and the Graal staff have provided you with this much. ARE YOU NEVER HAPPY?

Neonight · #13 07-04-2001, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by fugitive316
Bah Stefan, Unixmad and the Graal staff have provided you with this much. ARE YOU NEVER HAPPY?

I suppose you could say that. I go and buy Diablo/II and I can play any server for free on the main Battle.net server. I can play for free on PSO server. Hell I can play for free on every server I know of, EXCEPT FOR SOME GRAAL SERVERS

CrazedMerlin · #14 07-04-2001, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

I'll be damned if I'm gonna milk kids' parents for money

are you stupid
name one toy company in america that DOSENT, please grow a brain

SkooL · #15 07-04-2001, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
I'll be damned if I'm gonna milk kids' parents for money

Umm...I payed for this, my parents didn't help me pay for it :P

Neonight · #16 07-04-2001, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by CrazedMerlin

are you stupid
name one toy company in america that DOSENT, please grow a brain

Sorry I dunno many kids 15 years old that go and buy lots o' toys

fugitive316 · #17 07-04-2001, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

I suppose you could say that. I go and buy Diablo/II and I can play any server for free on the main Battle.net server. I can play for free on PSO server. Hell I can play for free on every server I know of, EXCEPT FOR SOME GRAAL SERVERS

I see a solution to your problem.

BruceLee2000 · #18 07-04-2001, 10:35 AM

Q U I T

Neonight · #19 07-04-2001, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by BruceLee2000
Q U I T

??? WTF r u raving about? Lol

Tolerian28 · #20 07-04-2001, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

I suppose you could say that. I go and buy Diablo/II and I can play any server for free on the main Battle.net server. I can play for free on PSO server. Hell I can play for free on every server I know of, EXCEPT FOR SOME GRAAL SERVERS

They probably have free servers because you have to pay to get diablo 2.
but you dont have to pay to get graal do you?!
graal needs to make money or there will be no graal

Warcaptain · #21 07-04-2001, 10:42 AM

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I suppose you could say that. I go and buy Diablo/II and I can play any server for free on the main Battle.net server. I can play for free on PSO server. Hell I can play for free on every server I know of, EXCEPT FOR SOME GRAAL SERVERS

That is true, I can pay $40 for Diablo II, a 3D game, and play it for free forever, and i can play the "good" world. Unlike on graal, where if you want to play on g2k1, the "good" world, you would have to pay $25 for a year. (Or become a p2p server owner).

And graal isnt much about the fun anymore, its about who is more powerful and if the owners make the most money.

SkooL · #22 07-04-2001, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
Sorry I dunno many kids 15 years old that go and buy lots o' toys

You said earlier that you don't want to milk a kid's parents money. I don't know about you, but I have to buy all of my stuff and I am 15.

View GraalOnline Profile · #23 07-04-2001, 10:49 AM

You know, all this complaining, and arguing isn't going to do ****? Stefan is too busy to look into any kind of corruption. So waste of bandwith = Corruption topics.

freddyfox · #24 07-04-2001, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Mafukie
Stefan is too busy to look into any kind of corruption. So waste of bandwith = Corruption topics.

Rekad · #25 07-04-2001, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

watchout Vermain, some kid may sue you for giving him a seisure with that annoying banner.

Lion'el-Jonson · #26 07-04-2001, 11:11 AM

Egad! Quit your whining Warcaptain. I suggested to Stefan about the show fishes command, I didn't get any credit (not that I needed any credit) am I whining? No.

Rekad · #27 07-04-2001, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Lion'el-Jonson
Egad! Quit your whining Warcaptain. I suggested to Stefan about the show fishes command, I didn't get any credit (not that I needed any credit) am I whining? No.

I suggested the train! just because Im posting here doesnt mean I need credit! EGAD!

G_yoshi · #28 07-04-2001, 11:27 AM

I see nothing wrong in paying for Graal. It obviously costs money to run the servers so it only makes perfect sense. Working hard and not getting some kind of monetary return sucks even though the gratitude of others helps

freddyfox · #29 07-04-2001, 11:31 AM

I am corrupt.

Rekad · #30 07-04-2001, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
I am corrupt.

I would be corrupt, but no one will let me be corrupt!

Lion'el-Jonson · #31 07-04-2001, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Rekad
I suggested the train! just because Im posting here doesnt mean I need credit! EGAD!

Quiet you! :o

IceHawk · #32 07-04-2001, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain

That is true, I can pay $40 for Diablo II, a 3D game, and play it for free forever, and i can play the "good" world. Unlike on graal, where if you want to play on g2k1, the "good" world, you would have to pay $25 for a year. (Or become a p2p server owner).

And graal isnt much about the fun anymore, its about who is more powerful and if the owners make the most money.

TrueHeaT:
Diablo II does not have a good world because it is a crappy, crappy game.

Torankusu · #33 07-04-2001, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by CrazedMerlin
I hate people who suck up to playerworld owners.

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