Mac dev tools - Page 2

Admins · #16 11-15-2006, 12:50 AM

You cannot put exe/bat/com into updatepackages though

excaliber7388 · #17 11-15-2006, 12:55 AM

It was a method, I'd never do it.
Still, there are other ways, .zip, other compressions, I'm sure it's possible.
Just saying, he can get a virus from the most unexpected spaces, and should have some virus protection...or a Mac.

Speaking of Mac...dev tools anyone?

Mine will be delivered late this week or early next week. I hate the fact that I won't be able to do anything on graal (because development IS Graal!)
Without it, playing isn't so great.
I have no idea why you would cut out the people using the Mac OS.

You know, Graal is featured on apple.com
*URL removed, just search apple and Graal* (Don't want this thread closed

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I think you own them some of your time

Crono · #18 11-15-2006, 01:21 AM

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The only reason there are not any Mac dev tools is because Cyberjoueurs has not created any.

No because mac sux

on a more serious note I wonder why they haven't made any dev tools for mac yet? it's been over a year right

Skyld · #19 11-15-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

No because mac sux

on a more serious note I wonder why they haven't made any dev tools for mac yet? it's been over a year right

Probably because nobody at Cyberjoueurs is experienced enough with Mac.

excaliber7388 · #20 11-15-2006, 05:47 AM

Mac tools, updated tools, and when?

zell12 · #21 11-15-2006, 05:53 AM

You say PC sucks... What facts/information do you have to base that off of?

excaliber7388 · #22 11-15-2006, 06:05 AM

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You say PC sucks... What facts/information do you have to base that off of?

*Sigh*
It was a joke...but.....
Design is bulky, not well thought out
No malware protection
Older OS
Vista is stolen off of an older Mac OS (Yay Leopard)
PCs can't multi task as well
Macs can do artistic and work stuff
Macs can run windows (omg, if we absolutely have to

)
Macs can do more
Macs have drivers pre installed
Must I go on? I think not, since it would be
OFF TOPIC

Crono · #23 11-15-2006, 01:01 PM

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Design is bulky, not well thought out

What the **** do you know

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No malware protection

zzz i haven't had a problem

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Older OS

runs fine for me

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Vista is stolen off of an older Mac OS (Yay Leopard)

yeah and mac has one mouse button

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PCs can't multi task as well

UM???

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Macs can do artistic and work stuff

LOL that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard

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Macs can run windows (omg, if we absolutely have to

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So, windows can run mac too

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Macs can do more

NO WINDOWS KAN DO MOR LIEK DEVELOP ON GRAAL LOL

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Macs have drivers pre installed

Who cares, you're gonna have to update em anyway.

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Must I go on? I think not, since it would be
OFF TOPIC

I say mods split this topic and we start another macsux vs windowrox thread

excaliber7388 · #24 11-15-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

What the **** do you know

THat the mac is slimmer than any PCs, that it has a built in camera, that it has a magsafe power adapter, that it has a magnetic latch for the lid...

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zzz i haven't had a problem

Download spybot, look at all your pretty spyware

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runs fine for me

Sure, but it's years behind Tiger or Leopard

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yeah and mac has one mouse button

Actually, the laptops allow scrolling with 2 fingers, right clicking with a tap of the trackpad with 2 fingers, and one big ol' mousebutton. The mice they sell have 5 buttons, including a scroll ball (not a scroll wheel) they also have bluetooth, touch sensitive shell, and aren't freaking huge.

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UM???

I'd like to see you open 20-some programs with ease
Look up the game "Cold War" for Mac. It has great graphics, AI, and features for a shooter, and yet it requires a lot less hardware than a pc program with the same game would have.

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LOL that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard

My Mac is coming with garage band, iLife, and iWork preinstalled, did you PC?

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So, windows can run mac too

So far, the only legal way for a PC to run the Mac OS is through a ****ty emulator.

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NO WINDOWS KAN DO MOR LIEK DEVELOP ON GRAAL LOL

I could always run windows, although no one wants to. Graal should have been put on the Mac first anyway, Mac's are clearly a better, more flexible, choice.

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Who cares, you're gonna have to update em anyway.

Yeah, but it also means I can plug and go, and that the drivers aren't going to crash my OS (like my webcam and game controller have).

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I say mods split this topic and we start another macsux vs windowrox thread

You'd get pwnd there too, just drop it and accept defeat.

excaliber7388 · #25 11-16-2006, 04:19 AM

I should also add that putting windows on your mac requires a hard drive partition. I don't like to do this, because it has the possibility of making your hard drive less stable, and increases your chances of losing data. Who want's that?
Besides, I'd have to restart to switch between the two. Though Mac starts uo quickly, XP takes too long.

zell12 · #26 11-16-2006, 04:32 AM

Go argue about MACs and PCs somewhere else. Only thing I took out of all that bs was something about the MACs looking ***. Hey, go buy a Shuttle case...

excaliber7388 · #27 11-16-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Go argue about MACs and PCs somewhere else. Only thing I took out of all that bs was something about the MACs looking ***. Hey, go buy a Shuttle case...

That's because you refused to read the damn thread. gtfo if you can't give something intelligent to the conversation.

ryu_no_bishie · #28 11-16-2006, 11:48 AM

For ****s sake shut the hell up about the PC/mac crap.

I think new tools would be great, im supprized how crappy creation tools are for graal considering how much of their player base is PW, lets face it, not many players bother with GOLD servers at all, heck you can even play zone if you dont have gold, sure you dont get to save anything, but its not needed either, just log on and play some games, if you really want to keep track of your killdeaths and junk put it in your profile

but the point is whoever develoups for graal needs to get updated editors and things to make the lives of develoupers easier, and what goes around comes around, i know that if i had the tools id be way more motivated. but as of now i dont even know what Gscript2 looks like. i dont know how to create a gmap, and untill i came to the forums i had no idea how to get ahold of a server, I understand that i can probably get ahold of this information if i work my ass off looking for it, and asking around, but i shouldnt have to, it should be available once i download that package with the big shiney lable that says develoupment tools.

whether this will happen or not is anyones guess. alot of staff and admins seem to be happy that it's possible and jumps on anyone new who asks why theres a giant bottleneck in the whole process. i mean, shesh, those newbies when will they stop whining right? (insert eye rolling smilie here)

excaliber7388 · #29 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM

It is supprising.
Most of graal is development, yet this is the one thing that hasn't been improved on in a long time

Crono · #30 11-16-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

THat the mac is slimmer than any PCs, that it has a built in camera, that it has a magsafe power adapter, that it has a magnetic latch for the lid...

Also much more expensive and doesnt have graal dev tools LOL

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Download spybot, look at all your pretty spyware

I usually dont have much but its because no one BOTHERS WITH MAC (since it sux)

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Sure, but it's years behind Tiger or Leopard

Who cares? XP is doing what I want it to

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Actually, the laptops allow scrolling with 2 fingers, right clicking with a tap of the trackpad with 2 fingers, and one big ol' mousebutton. The mice they sell have 5 buttons, including a scroll ball (not a scroll wheel) they also have bluetooth, touch sensitive shell, and aren't freaking huge.

i dont care it doesnt have two fingers stock on all macs i win

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I'd like to see you open 20-some programs with ease
Look up the game "Cold War" for Mac. It has great graphics, AI, and features for a shooter, and yet it requires a lot less hardware than a pc program with the same game would have.

I'd like to see you benchmark 3dmark05 on a mac

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My Mac is coming with garage band, iLife, and iWork preinstalled, did you PC?

My PC came with a two finger mouse, lots of software to choose from, and was probably much cheaper than yor mac.

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So far, the only legal way for a PC to run the Mac OS is through a ****ty emulator.

Well no one really wants to run the Mac OS anyway

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Mac's are clearly a better, more flexible, choice.

I'm probably gonna get an infraction + week ban but that is the most ****ing stupid point you ever made in the history of mac vs windows

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Yeah, but it also means I can plug and go, and that the drivers aren't going to crash my OS (like my webcam and game controller have).

i've never crashed due to driver issues

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You'd get pwnd there too, just drop it and accept defeat.

Cali you couldn't pwn a fly if you tried. I win

AND ON THE SUBJECT OF GRAAL DEVELOPMENT TOOLS i want that level editor update

also would be nice for gs2 support :[