What do you think of the current Classic worlds?

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Zodiac-

Garbage. The only thing keeping it going is it's gameplay, and even Yen admitted that it's ripped from multiple games.

Zodiac is one of the most graphically ugly servers I've seen in a long time.
When I first logged on I was like "Wtf? Who in their right mind would create a tileset that's uglier than the default one?!!?!?".
And then I noticed crap like "feign death" which is obviously jacked from another game, and I've not logged back on since.
Zodiac doesn't really bring anything new or original to Graal at all.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Zodiac doesn't really bring anything new or original to Graal at all.

Obviously today's Graal community prefers addictive ripped off gameplay to quality. I mean Zodiac does not have proper cliffing and still passed? It's pretty hard to make your tileset uglier than pics1.png, but Zodiac somehow managed to do it.

Oh well, we're not bashing a playerworld...simply pointing out it's flaws right?

[Yen]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Zodiac is one of the most graphically ugly servers I've seen in a long time.
When I first logged on I was like "Wtf? Who in their right mind would create a tileset that's uglier than the default one?!!?!?".
And then I noticed crap like "feign death" which is obviously jacked from another game, and I've not logged back on since.
Zodiac doesn't really bring anything new or original to Graal at all.

Yeah. You totally called me.
Fireball? I stole it.
Enrage? Definately stolen.
Mug? I admit to stealing it from the Webster dictionary.

I'm definately guilty of being literate enough to think up synonyms for things that sound lame, like 'Fake Death.'

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Zodiac doesn't really bring anything new or original to Graal at all.

The swimming system I recently implemented is 100% unique and brand spanking new to Graal.


Yes, I agree, the graphics are fugly, but we don't exactly have a graphics team. Besides the graphics, the gameplay is rather nice. I'm sure Zodiac would attract more players with better graphics, but we lack the resources ATM.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The swimming system I recently implemented is 100% unique and brand spanking new to Graal.


Yes, I agree, the graphics are fugly, but we don't exactly have a graphics team. Besides the graphics, the gameplay is rather nice. I'm sure Zodiac would attract more players with better graphics, but we lack the resources ATM.

In my eyes, graphics is 70%+ of a good gameplay.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

In my eyes, graphics is 70%+ of a good gameplay.

We don't have any other options than to do with what we have. I do believe Zodiac is currently looking for graphic artists, but we have yet to find any skilled artists interested.

[The Evil Within]

Originally Posted by Gambet

We don't have any other options than to do with what we have. I do believe Zodiac is currently looking for graphic artists, but we have yet to find any skilled artists interested.

Actually I know a couple of people who mentioned in conversations with me that they were going to apply, but then when they questioned one of the staff members about it they were treated very badly (each person said a different name, I can't remember either of the staff members names). I think one of the staff members lead the guy who wanted to tryout in circles and tried making fun of him, and the other guy just told the dude that he wasn't good enough to work on Zodiac before he even submitted a tryout.

This was all about a month ago so what I'm about to say might not apply anymore, but maybe if you guys had some competent staff that didn't treat players like **** you would be able to find the gfx team you were looking for.

[Maasharu]

Originally Posted by Devil

Bah if you take them off classic, they should be permanently taken off, not moved over to hosted.

That's just asinine. I am working my ass off for Delteria. There hasn't been a single day in three months, which is when I was able to start working again, that I haven't developed. Permanently taking Delteria off of the list would do nothing more than spit on all my work and the work of many others.

I really don't care if Delteria gets taken off the list anymore, as long as it can be put back up as soon as we are ready to release the new overworld. I don't really see the point in this, but if everyone wants it to be done then so be it.

However, the idea of taking Delteria and the others off permanently is nothing more than simply trying to be destructive, and it's probably the worst idea I have ever heard.

[konidias]

Originally Posted by Maasharu

That's just asinine. I am working my ass off for Delteria. There hasn't been a single day in three months, which is when I was able to start working again, that I haven't developed. Permanently taking Delteria off of the list would do nothing more than spit on all my work and the work of many others.

I really don't care if Delteria gets taken off the list anymore, as long as it can be put back up as soon as we are ready to release the new overworld. I don't really see the point in this, but if everyone wants it to be done then so be it.

However, the idea of taking Delteria and the others off permanently is nothing more than simply trying to be destructive, and it's probably the worst idea I have ever heard.

I see the point in it:

- it's not good for Graal to have several 0 playercount servers in the list
- when rebuilding/renovating a server, there is no way to estimate a date that you'll be finished. could be two months, could be ten.
- just because your server is classic does not mean you get the advantage of totally rebuilding it and then having it be classic without passing any inspections (see: "as long as it can be put back up as soon as we are ready to release the new overworld")

I see the last point as the biggest problem. You have servers that go up and then a week later they are back under construction again and then when they finish they just re-release the server without getting passed. They could have very well made the server worse and nobody would know until they played.

I'm making the 2k1 revision and it was removed from the public list as to not cause confusion. I totally intend on getting my server passed and don't think I'm just going to say "okay I'm done, make it classic again", because "it" is no longer the same server that it originally was.

So anyone who thinks it's okay to leave their 0 playercount classic server on the list while they spend an unknown amount of time developing for a re-release, and then expects to release it without it getting passed is taking advantage of the system.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Gambet

he gameplay is rather nice

It's not that hard to rip off different games.

Btw, Crono, are you gonna come back to Delt, or should we have somebody else head the Al Jadim project?

Have someone else do it. Babylon got rid of someone who I wanted gone for a while and so I'm back there. Babylon has priority over just about everything.

[Infernix]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The swimming system I recently implemented is 100% unique and brand spanking new to Graal.


Yes, I agree, the graphics are fugly, but we don't exactly have a graphics team. Besides the graphics, the gameplay is rather nice. I'm sure Zodiac would attract more players with better graphics, but we lack the resources ATM.

o Jesus yes, swimming systems. Exactly what graal needs.