Lifetime Classic - Page 11

Shaun · #**151** 10-08-2006, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth

That sure sounds like a fancy way to say you mark stuff and fetch coffee.

No, I do research and help prepare/discuss lectures and papers.

Devil · #**152** 10-08-2006, 04:51 AM

Who cares?

This isn't about you and fetching coffee.

Bl0nkt · #**153** 10-08-2006, 05:00 AM

I think it'd be nice to open a VIP serverlist where only VIP members can go. This would include beta testing new things such as this, and this would create a feel of "wow, it'd be real nice to see how everything works and learn how to use it."

Update features regularly and it will become something worth buying. After a while of keeping it on the VIP serverlist, you can revert it to gold, classic and trial access. Another thing you should consider is making a gold account something more valuable. Give it something more than two servers to play on and access to hidden playerworlds. I know I'm the little guy, but if you'd like to discuss things more thoroughly send me a forum PM. I'm sure we can reach a compromise that would benefit everyone, including you.

Googi · #**154** 10-08-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

They're losing lots of profit from server costs.

I'm not convinced that these costs are very high seeing as hardly any of the playerworlds people paid to create are very extensive or consume much bandwidth (because they pretty much just have some idling RCs, at most). If you license GServer software (at a lower price than the server rental fees), the number of people who would stop renting servers because they no longer have to could potentially be large, and I doubt that very many people not already renting servers would want to buy the software. Plus there would be piracy concerns.

Shaun · #**155** 10-08-2006, 05:30 AM

If the costs were not high, then GraalOnline would not be making a policy change to make up for them, would it?

konidias · #**156** 10-08-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

I'm not convinced that these costs are very high seeing as hardly any of the playerworlds people paid to create are very extensive or consume much bandwidth (because they pretty much just have some idling RCs, at most). If you license GServer software (at a lower price than the server rental fees), the number of people who would stop renting servers because they no longer have to could potentially be large, and I doubt that very many people not already renting servers would want to buy the software. Plus there would be piracy concerns.

I tried to explain this to him over AIM. There are like 100 private playerworlds with 0 players on them right now. How much could that seriously be costing Graal? That's $10,000 if all 100 of those are 1 year rentals. I highly doubt it's costing $10,000 to host 0 playercount servers.

Graal's main drain in funding would be hosting the gold/classic servers/website and forums, as well as office rental, paying staff, and whatever other fees they might have that are unrelated to playerworld hosting. His idea is for Graal to basically remove the Classic list and host only the gold servers... and then charge people for gservers in which they would have to pay for their own hosting but they could make up their own rules and charge people to play there. Like I told him, they are already making $100 off each playerworld rental and those playerworlds are doing nothing... so what makes him think that any player run server would survive on it's own? Let alone be good enough to make people want to pay for it.

But this pretty much sums him up right here:

ShaunAndresen: I have absolutely no faith in the global GraalOnline bureaucracy
ShaunAndresen: And I have no care for the members of the GraalOnline community

Googi · #**157** 10-08-2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

If the costs were not high, then GraalOnline would not be making a policy change to make up for them, would it?

The only policy change I see being suggested by Unix here involves removing "lifetime" accounts, nothing to do with the people paying $120 a year to have a server that goes nowhere.

Shaun · #**158** 10-08-2006, 05:43 AM

Fine. I'll spare you guys and do something better with my time from now on like fetching coffee.

You guys win. Or will when a forum admin or supermod or whatever gets online.

Googi · #**159** 10-08-2006, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

You guys win.

Woah, nice work Koni. We beat a professor's assistant. We must be pretty awesome. Like, as awesome as an actual professor.

konidias · #**160** 10-08-2006, 05:49 AM

I think this calls for a round of high fives, wouldn't you say, Professor Googi?

smirt362 · #**161** 10-08-2006, 05:50 AM

I think several servers are hosted on a single machine and its not like they dont pay for the server space. You have to pay some ammount of money to get hosted for 6 months and if you dont pay again then they take it away.

Googi · #**162** 10-08-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias

I think this calls for a round of high fives, wouldn't you say, Professor Googi?

That I would, Assistant Koni.

Shaun · #**163** 10-08-2006, 05:53 AM

Gentlemen, I'll let you see the spoils of your victory.

Devil · #**164** 10-08-2006, 05:57 AM

Wow you really are mature losing an arguement and posting your GraalOnline password on forums.

Absolute retard. Now fetch me some coffee.

zim5354 · #**165** 10-08-2006, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I think the VIP subscription should be redone, and renamed Classic subscription. Perks that were originally said to be given to VIP only, should just be given to VIP (Classic) and Gold. The "free for life" classic account should go away.

If the free for life goes away so many people will stop playing. The people who actually play will be in ghost town servers.