For The Selfish, For The Ignorant, And For Those Who Have Low Self Confidence... - Page 14

AlkarenHyralt · #**521** 07-02-2001, 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by Crono Illusion

Yes, she would've done a much better job than Geo.
Plus, with the "Anyone who somehow criticizes me loses service" policy, it just makes my respect for him drop another 15 points, sending my respect for him into the land of negative numbers.

It hasn't been there already? My respect for him has been in negative land for quite a while. He knew what would happen when he left the topic open. It was not a mistake, it was on purpose. That alone put my respect for him into the land of nothingness.

Gameo · #**522** 07-02-2001, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: It doesn't matter if I 'shouldn't have done that', I already know I shouldn't have. I know the rules, I made most of the forum rules. Even if I had posted pictures of really gross porn I should not have been banned from the game. Even if I had done something ten times worse I should not have been banned from the game. I never attacked Geovanie until he attacked me first. I merely pointed out the problems with his playerworlds, like bad links, bad levels, stolen NPCs, copywrite stuff. He proceeded to call me 'immature' and a little kid and said I could never do better because I was stating my opinion of his freaking playerworld! HE started the attacks on me, him and the people who suck up to him so whenever I stated my opinion of his playerworld the insults rained down on me from him and all his friends but did anyone notice that? Did anyone get it trouble for that? Does Geovanie get in trouble for calling players names? NO.
I state my opinion of his playerworld, he said I had a bad additude and threatened to DELETE MY GRAAL ACCOUNT! I am not some big jerk that looks for people to swear at! Get it straight!

People still ignore this completely, except for Ghost Pirate. I'd like a response from the people who think I should be banned, especially SSmutz because he thinks I'm a complete ******* to everyone.

fugitive316 · #**523** 07-02-2001, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: And he also said that he would not help anyone who insulted his playerworld with account problems

I remember Geo saying that.

TylerS36 · #**524** 07-02-2001, 06:36 AM

Crono Illusion · #**525** 07-02-2001, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

It hasn't been there already? My respect for him has been in negative land for quite a while. He knew what would happen when he left the topic open. It was not a mistake, it was on purpose. That alone put my respect for him into the land of nothingness.

Before I knew about it, he was at 0.

Tolerian28 · #**526** 07-02-2001, 08:23 AM

i haven't been on this thread for awhile now, but are you all still arguing about Mr. Bear and stuff?

View GraalOnline Profile · #**527** 07-02-2001, 08:59 AM

I think it has switched over to TrueHeaT's banning and Crono's *****in sig.

Crono Illusion · #**528** 07-02-2001, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by Napster69
I think it has switched over to TrueHeaT's banning and Crono's *****in sig.

Yes, my sig is truly amazing.

Asuka · #**529** 07-02-2001, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

I didn't yell at you, I pointed out that you were the one always calling her fat etc.

Who am I to decide whether or not he is too young for the job? I am a paying customer and I'm using common sense. There's no way I'm going to give money to a 16 year old who can't spell the name of the college he claims to be going to. I know it's not my choice, but I do have the right to complain.

I am sure anyone can handle that job better than Mr. Bear, he's done a terrible job with his power trip.

Let me put it this way Gameo (since you're so concerned with spelling) This game is run by 2 foreigners. A frenchman and a german. Have you ever read or gotten any emails or big long statements from them? There are quite a few of mistakes (Though Stefan did impress me from his first email i got from him i thought it would be totally horrid but he did very well for being a foreigner) So you're saying you would pay 2 foreigners who know english as a second language (and make some mistakes too) but you wouldn't pay an american who can't type well? That's just stupid and we don't even know if Bear is getting paid or not only he stef and unix know that.

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Originally posted by Merlin2

Typing? I type over one hundred words per a mintue and i don't make many typos... come on mr bear man and remember the **** about my webpage? i stole it? hah i generated it from Front Page 98

It's minute not mintue. Enough said, please never talk again you hypocrite.

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Originally posted by FatherDante

Asuka.... everyone wants that job, practically. If Stefan said to anyone: "I need a junior GM." Chances are they'd jump at it.

Yes they may want the job but more than likely 98% wouldn't be qualified nor would they be able to handle it for more than 2 days. There is a lot of work involved.

View GraalOnline Profile · #**530** 07-02-2001, 10:37 AM

This, and many other recent threads, make me want to hurl twice over.

Gameo · #**531** 07-02-2001, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: It doesn't matter if I 'shouldn't have done that', I already know I shouldn't have. I know the rules, I made most of the forum rules. Even if I had posted pictures of really gross porn I should not have been banned from the game. Even if I had done something ten times worse I should not have been banned from the game. I never attacked Geovanie until he attacked me first. I merely pointed out the problems with his playerworlds, like bad links, bad levels, stolen NPCs, copywrite stuff. He proceeded to call me 'immature' and a little kid and said I could never do better because I was stating my opinion of his freaking playerworld! HE started the attacks on me, him and the people who suck up to him so whenever I stated my opinion of his playerworld the insults rained down on me from him and all his friends but did anyone notice that? Did anyone get it trouble for that? Does Geovanie get in trouble for calling players names? NO.
I state my opinion of his playerworld, he said I had a bad additude and threatened to DELETE MY GRAAL ACCOUNT! I am not some big jerk that looks for people to swear at! Get it straight!

lalalalala everyone ignores my post I would really like SSmutz you respond he seems to think i'm a big jerk to everyone even though i've always liked and respected him

Huggles · #**532** 07-02-2001, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

lalalalala everyone ignores my post I would really like SSmutz you respond he seems to think i'm a big jerk to everyone even though i've always liked and respected him

Actualy Im afraid of you gameo! thats why I treat you well!

Gameo · #**533** 07-02-2001, 10:55 AM

TrueHeaT: That was me.
Please remove that signature I do not like being depicted giving oral sex to adult men.

Huggles · #**534** 07-02-2001, 10:56 AM

Hammer plz

Gameo · #**535** 07-02-2001, 10:58 AM

TrueHeaT: Sorry I am not giving you my hammer for free. Your signature falls under the category of lewd images and you are breaking the forum rules by using it.
Please remove it.

G_yoshi · #**536** 07-02-2001, 11:24 AM

The reason I mentioned your name, Gameo, along with Tybalt's because it was posted on the forums before that you have also provoked and harrased him....don't try to act innocent, because your acting skills need drastic improvement.

I do not understand how you can completely segregate the forums from Graal(game client)...they are both part of the entity GraalOnline...therefore rules set by GO would apply to both extremeties. It would be an utter waste to sit down and draw up rules for both when more or less, the rules will be fairly identical.

I hope you also took note that bear said that he was not getting paid. The staff WOULD be better if they were paid. But due to the obvious fact that practically all staff positions are done on a volunteer basis, you must realize that people in these positions are not going to work as hard. That would, however, be different if they truely had a passion for what they do or they were getting paid.

I wish you would keep your personal grudges against specific staff members to yourself. And if you felt it necessary to voice your opinion about them, do it personally by sending them an email...without being rude and spiteful. That is probably why you get the same results over and over again and the cycle will continue until your attitude changes.

Feel free to sit there and post excuses for what I have said...I am open to all criticism.

Gameo · #**537** 07-02-2001, 11:28 AM

TrueHeaT:
G-Yoshi if you had read me big post you would know I didn't provoke Geo, he provoked me. The forums and the game have almost the same rules but the punishments are punishments for the place the crime was committed.

G_yoshi · #**538** 07-02-2001, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT:
G-Yoshi if you had read me big post you would know I didn't provoke Geo, he provoked me. The forums and the game have almost the same rules but the punishments are punishments for the place the crime was committed.

hmm...lets see....everytime it seemed that Geo posted something, graal related or not, you were there waiting for him....I have eyes, and a brain as well. I am not ignorant as to what is going on. Also, congrats on being a martyr, THT.

vergil · #**539** 07-02-2001, 11:35 AM

Gameo
TrueHeaT

Geovanie is who he is Mr Bear is who he is, nothing is going to change that. i dont think that ever ni the history of graal has a change in staff happened because of what the players said
maybe once or twice becauseof what a staff member did but technically theres not enough proof to do anything about it
it is what it is and you arent going to change it no matter how much you tell everyone Geovanie and Mr Bear are bad and corupt
it doesnt matter if they are or not, because it wont make a difference. in a week or two everyone wil have forgotten about it, and you probably will have too, because youll get so sick of argueing without success that youll stop.

Gameo · #**540** 07-02-2001, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi
The reason I mentioned your name, Gameo, along with Tybalt's because it was posted on the forums before that you have also provoked and harrased him....don't try to act innocent, because your acting skills need drastic improvement.

I do not understand how you can completely segregate the forums from Graal(game client)...they are both part of the entity GraalOnline...therefore rules set by GO would apply to both extremeties. It would be an utter waste to sit down and draw up rules for both when more or less, the rules will be fairly identical.

I hope you also took note that bear said that he was not getting paid. The staff WOULD be better if they were paid. But due to the obvious fact that practically all staff positions are done on a volunteer basis, you must realize that people in these positions are not going to work as hard. That would, however, be different if they truely had a passion for what they do or they were getting paid.

I wish you would keep your personal grudges against specific staff members to yourself. And if you felt it necessary to voice your opinion about them, do it personally by sending them an email...without being rude and spiteful. That is probably why you get the same results over and over again and the cycle will continue until your attitude changes.

Feel free to sit there and post excuses for what I have said...I am open to all criticism.

you're right as far as attitude goes, but it's not personal grudges. bear told me that starting next week he would be getting paid. (the log in my profile)

but a crime done on the forums means you're to be punished on the forums.
a crime done on graal means you're to be punished on graal.

they ARE seperate entities.

Gameo · #**541** 07-02-2001, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
Gameo
TrueHeaT

Geovanie is who he is Mr Bear is who he is, nothing is going to change that. i dont think that ever ni the history of graal has a change in staff happened because of what the players said
maybe once or twice becauseof what a staff member did but technically theres not enough proof to do anything about it
it is what it is and you arent going to change it no matter how much you tell everyone Geovanie and Mr Bear are bad and corupt
it doesnt matter if they are or not, because it wont make a difference. in a week or two everyone wil have forgotten about it, and you probably will have too, because youll get so sick of argueing without success that youll stop.

yes, you're right.
you're completely right.

Gameo · #**542** 07-02-2001, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

hmm...lets see....everytime it seemed that Geo posted something, graal related or not, you were there waiting for him....I have eyes, and a brain as well. I am not ignorant as to what is going on. Also, congrats on being a martyr, THT.

TrueHeaT:
You obviously didn't see how I never attacked him, I merely stated my opionion of his playerworld. Upon doing that hordes of his friends and him himself called me "immature" "***" they said I could never make better PWs than him ETC.

G_yoshi · #**543** 07-02-2001, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

you're right as far as attitude goes, but it's not personal grudges. bear told me that starting next week he would be getting paid. (the log in my profile)

but a crime done on the forums means you're to be punished on the forums.
a crime done on graal means you're to be punished on graal.

they ARE seperate entities.

explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

Archeon · #**544** 07-02-2001, 12:10 PM

can we just fire Mr Bear already so this damn thread will end?

Hulk Hogan · #**545** 07-02-2001, 12:10 PM

ok? thanks

Gameo · #**546** 07-02-2001, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

They are two seperate entities.
If you want them to be one entity, then have it so if a person can't be banned on one or the other, but on both. If a person does something wrong on the forums he should not be punished on Graal, it's ridiculous and makes no sense. He should be banned on the forums. Same goes with Graal. The rules here don't apply to Graal. There are seperate rules for Graal Forums and Graal.exe. You don't realize this.

View GraalOnline Profile · #**547** 07-02-2001, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: Sorry I am not giving you my hammer for free. Your signature falls under the category of lewd images and you are breaking the forum rules by using it.
Please remove it.

I don't see any sig...

Crono Illusion · #**548** 07-02-2001, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica

I don't see any sig...

I think he removed it.

smallballn13 · #**549** 07-02-2001, 12:16 PM

thanks!

Gameo · #**550** 07-02-2001, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

explain to me how they are seperate...both are in the real world, and thus are affected by real world variables. If this forum was not hosted by GO, then I would consider it a seperate entity...but because it is hosted under the name GraalOnline...it is part of that entity and not outside that. Until Unixmad or Stefan post a message saying that the forums and Graal are seperate, then they should be considered 1 entity. Making them seperate would allow people to break rules and repeat. It would also allow people to evade being banned

And if bear gets paid, then that is fine and dandy. That obviously will mean that his performance will pick up..otherwise, he will be fired for lack of performance and of course, lose the pay. If you want the staff to be better and not "corrupt" then pay them, or find people that are willing and are devout, otherwise you set yourself up for disappointment.

The reoccuring problem I see is that people expect too much of volunteer staff. That is why there are so many problems.

TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

Gameo · #**551** 07-02-2001, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

Archeon · #**552** 07-02-2001, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

hey guy, quoting yourself is stupid, and i do that...so stop..

Gameo · #**553** 07-02-2001, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Archeon

hey guy, quoting yourself is stupid, and i do that...so stop..

i quoted TrueHeaT using my account y0

G_yoshi · #**554** 07-02-2001, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

TrueHeaT: Why do you think Stefan unbanned my Graal account? He aknowledges that offenses on the forum are not to be punished in game! It's JUST COMMON SENSE! I realize you only think I should be banned and hold a grudge against my because I am not a christian and I oppose their views, but let this not cloud your thought.

i have no grudge against you for that...it is your attitude and behavior and the fact that you want the whole graal community to exonerate you. That is why I continue to post on this thread.

If you would just settle down and review all the side first, then make your decision, you would not have problems to worry about....large problems that is.

I think both of you would make great friends, to be honest. You are both worth my time to debate with.

Unless I see something I should have to comment on in this thread again....consider me as having dropped myself out of the dicussion.

take care, till we meet again...

Gameo · #**555** 07-02-2001, 12:43 PM

TrueHeaT: I have reviewed both sides.
Well, it seems like you're holding a grudge because ever since the thread where we argued about religion it seems you treat me really badly.. =\
I don't want to whole Graal community to exonerate me I don't know why you think that.
Of course I have an additude to Geovanie who as I said before started these arguments by being so defensive about his playerworlds and causing so many people to hate me just because I don't like them.

Archeon · #**556** 07-02-2001, 12:44 PM

Cant we just have Elections?

PS. Jinn for Dicatator!

Falcor · #**557** 07-02-2001, 12:59 PM

G_yoshi · #**558** 07-02-2001, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: I have reviewed both sides.
Well, it seems like you're holding a grudge because ever since the thread where we argued about religion it seems you treat me really badly.. =\
I don't want to whole Graal community to exonerate me I don't know why you think that.
Of course I have an additude to Geovanie who as I said before started these arguments by being so defensive about his playerworlds and causing so many people to hate me just because I don't like them.

i am sorry if that is how I am appearing to you, i appologize for that. I am not intentionally trying to be mean, I am just trying to propose the other side of things that always seems to be neglected or kept in secret.

Archeon · #**559** 07-02-2001, 01:27 PM

LETS JUST HAVE ELECTIONS DAMNIT!!

Asuka · #**560** 07-02-2001, 08:56 PM

Elections won't work work because people who aren't qualified would be in the polls and whoever is the most popular will win. BAD IDEA SO DIE~!