Web Client

Faital_Ryu · #1 05-11-2006, 11:11 PM

Probably a tall order, but it'd be nice to play Graal abroad on a web client. By having a web client available, people can play Graal on other computers where downloading is restricted, and if you're playing Graal at any public place, you can tell people about Graal, getting more players to try it out, and possibly get more Gold/VIP players.

Skyld · #2 05-11-2006, 11:21 PM

I don't think it is suitable. The client depends on quite a lot, it would be difficult to write a Java version I guess.

Zero Hour · #3 05-11-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

I don't think it is suitable. The client depends on quite a lot, it would be difficult to write a Java version I guess.

It would have to be limited to specific servers, or ones made specifically for it. I can't see it being feasible otherwise.

Faital_Ryu · #4 05-11-2006, 11:27 PM

I was thinking that only Gold/VIP members could access the web client, and probably the Gold servers, and the most popular Classic servers would be available. Like GK, Zone, Unholy Nation, probably those servers would be available.

Or, you could make web clients for specific servers. Like, you could load a GK client, and all you do, is enter your account info, log in, and you load at the last place you were at on GK.

If web clients were actually to be made, I'd only make them for the most popular servers.

Tyhm · #5 05-12-2006, 01:22 AM

I could see a Graal Lite version. Remember when Unixmad was all up ons about putting Graal on everything: PDAs, PSPs, Toasters...?
I could see a Lite Version. Reduce all the graphics to one big spritesheet. Reduce the resolution by a LOT. A handfull of default sounds only. Then, if you really want to let people do it, you can code a system NPC on your server so they can move around - on the same server as everyone else - using the Lite client. They see a 8x4 icon of themself sliding around watering corn icons (very Early Atari), we see a Fung Si Yan walking around normally. We walk up, they see an 8x4 icon of Generic Player #2 slide up.

Hmm, should I draw a picture, or does this make sense to people who aren't me?

Zero Hour · #6 05-12-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

I could see a Graal Lite version. Remember when Unixmad was all up ons about putting Graal on everything: PDAs, PSPs, Toasters...?
I could see a Lite Version. Reduce all the graphics to one big spritesheet. Reduce the resolution by a LOT. A handfull of default sounds only. Then, if you really want to let people do it, you can code a system NPC on your server so they can move around - on the same server as everyone else - using the Lite client. They see a 8x4 icon of themself sliding around watering corn icons (very Early Atari), we see a Fung Si Yan walking around normally. We walk up, they see an 8x4 icon of Generic Player #2 slide up.

Hmm, should I draw a picture, or does this make sense to people who aren't me?

Somewhat, but certain aspects would be limited because specific servers wouldn't apply to the tileset, or would be otherwise be limited by it. Savvy?

Tyhm · #7 05-12-2006, 01:37 AM

Yeah, I dig. It'd be ugly. That's pretty much inevitable when you're going from Actual Client back to Java Client (Weird, dejavu...), but that'd be the system - The only tileset you're allowed to use is all square-corners, ASCII level graphics, all the chairs look the same, all the beds look the same, etcetera. If your world was a space station, the system has to translate it all into "WALL. FLOOR. CHAIR.", and it won't look anything like Right on the web client.

Zero Hour · #8 05-12-2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

Yeah, I dig. It'd be ugly. That's pretty much inevitable when you're going from Actual Client back to Java Client (Weird, dejavu...), but that'd be the system - The only tileset you're allowed to use is all square-corners, ASCII level graphics, all the chairs look the same, all the beds look the same, etcetera. If your world was a space station, the system has to translate it all into "WALL. FLOOR. CHAIR.", and it won't look anything like Right on the web client.

I don't see the advantages of this, in comparison to the disadvantages. I guess it's just a bad idea. I still think it should be ported to PDA and PSP, though

Tyhm · #9 05-12-2006, 02:02 AM

And cellphone and toaster.

irule13 · #10 05-12-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

And cellphone and toaster.

that would be awesome

Zero Hour · #11 05-12-2006, 03:12 AM

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And cellphone and toaster.

Then I wouldn't mind waiting for my bread to toast.

excaliber7388 · #12 05-12-2006, 04:03 AM

Or make the web client free, a kind of game to draw in paying users

Fogles · #13 05-12-2006, 05:04 AM

If graal had a java client, i could play on modded xbox.

I got a web browser app on it

Skyld · #14 05-12-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogles

If graal had a java client, i could play on modded xbox.

I got a web browser app on it

You could just mod your xbox some more and make it run linux. Then you can play more feature-rich Graal.

Draenin · #15 05-12-2006, 05:51 PM

Yeah, but would you be able to bind keys and stuff?

CidNight1142 · #16 05-12-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

You could just mod your xbox some more and make it run linux. Then you can play more feature-rich Graal.

Unfortunately, he could not develop.

Fogles · #17 05-12-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Yeah, but would you be able to bind keys and stuff?

Yeah, You could.

Zero Hour · #18 05-12-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogles

Yeah, You could.

I think he means the java client o:

VulcanP2P · #19 05-12-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I think he means the java client o:

In linksbox or whatever it's called you can bind certain keys to certain buttons on the XBOX if I remember correctly.

Rick · #20 05-13-2006, 05:19 AM

Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Zero Hour · #21 05-13-2006, 07:19 AM

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Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Yea, that's always been everyone's consideration

excaliber7388 · #22 05-13-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Bah, thats why they make proxies

plus, like I said, it could be a way for noobs to sample graal before downloading or buying

Fogles · #23 05-15-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P

In linksbox or whatever it's called you can bind certain keys to certain buttons on the XBOX if I remember correctly.

Correct.

Faital_Ryu · #24 05-16-2006, 12:35 AM

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it could be a way for noobs to sample graal before downloading or buying

I concur! What if people trying out Graal don't like it, and wasted space on their computer?

napo_p2p · #25 05-18-2006, 09:12 AM

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I concur! What if people trying out Graal don't like it, and wasted space on their computer?

There's something called uninstall. It's possible to use too!

The web version would be very much dumbed down. And (as other people have stated), if implemented, would only work on specialized servers.

Might as well go here.

Tyhm · #26 05-18-2006, 02:50 PM

But it'd be sweet if that hooked up to an actual server, ya know?

Faital_Ryu · #27 05-18-2006, 11:50 PM

It's callled Graal Classic, Tyhm. I made this topic because it'd be really nice to play Graal on the broad, and more often. My h ome computer's relatively limited, so I don't get to play Graal as long as I want to most of the time, and at other places I go to play the computer, downloading is prohibited.

Zero Hour · #28 05-18-2006, 11:57 PM

I can only see this as handy for students on school computers or workers, and ofcourse people with PDAs and such :P

Faital_Ryu · #29 05-20-2006, 08:56 PM

Well, so you know, if a Graal web client ever was made, I definitely wouldn't be playing at school.