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Faital_Ryu 05-11-2006 11:11 PM

Web Client
 
Probably a tall order, but it'd be nice to play Graal abroad on a web client. By having a web client available, people can play Graal on other computers where downloading is restricted, and if you're playing Graal at any public place, you can tell people about Graal, getting more players to try it out, and possibly get more Gold/VIP players.

Skyld 05-11-2006 11:21 PM

I don't think it is suitable. The client depends on quite a lot, it would be difficult to write a Java version I guess.

Zero Hour 05-11-2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
I don't think it is suitable. The client depends on quite a lot, it would be difficult to write a Java version I guess.

It would have to be limited to specific servers, or ones made specifically for it. I can't see it being feasible otherwise.

Faital_Ryu 05-11-2006 11:27 PM

I was thinking that only Gold/VIP members could access the web client, and probably the Gold servers, and the most popular Classic servers would be available. Like GK, Zone, Unholy Nation, probably those servers would be available.

Or, you could make web clients for specific servers. Like, you could load a GK client, and all you do, is enter your account info, log in, and you load at the last place you were at on GK.

If web clients were actually to be made, I'd only make them for the most popular servers.

Tyhm 05-12-2006 01:22 AM

I could see a Graal Lite version. Remember when Unixmad was all up ons about putting Graal on everything: PDAs, PSPs, Toasters...?
I could see a Lite Version. Reduce all the graphics to one big spritesheet. Reduce the resolution by a LOT. A handfull of default sounds only. Then, if you really want to let people do it, you can code a system NPC on your server so they can move around - on the same server as everyone else - using the Lite client. They see a 8x4 icon of themself sliding around watering corn icons (very Early Atari), we see a Fung Si Yan walking around normally. We walk up, they see an 8x4 icon of Generic Player #2 slide up.

Hmm, should I draw a picture, or does this make sense to people who aren't me?

Zero Hour 05-12-2006 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
I could see a Graal Lite version. Remember when Unixmad was all up ons about putting Graal on everything: PDAs, PSPs, Toasters...?
I could see a Lite Version. Reduce all the graphics to one big spritesheet. Reduce the resolution by a LOT. A handfull of default sounds only. Then, if you really want to let people do it, you can code a system NPC on your server so they can move around - on the same server as everyone else - using the Lite client. They see a 8x4 icon of themself sliding around watering corn icons (very Early Atari), we see a Fung Si Yan walking around normally. We walk up, they see an 8x4 icon of Generic Player #2 slide up.

Hmm, should I draw a picture, or does this make sense to people who aren't me?

Somewhat, but certain aspects would be limited because specific servers wouldn't apply to the tileset, or would be otherwise be limited by it. Savvy?

Tyhm 05-12-2006 01:37 AM

Yeah, I dig. It'd be ugly. That's pretty much inevitable when you're going from Actual Client back to Java Client (Weird, dejavu...), but that'd be the system - The only tileset you're allowed to use is all square-corners, ASCII level graphics, all the chairs look the same, all the beds look the same, etcetera. If your world was a space station, the system has to translate it all into "WALL. FLOOR. CHAIR.", and it won't look anything like Right on the web client.

Zero Hour 05-12-2006 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
Yeah, I dig. It'd be ugly. That's pretty much inevitable when you're going from Actual Client back to Java Client (Weird, dejavu...), but that'd be the system - The only tileset you're allowed to use is all square-corners, ASCII level graphics, all the chairs look the same, all the beds look the same, etcetera. If your world was a space station, the system has to translate it all into "WALL. FLOOR. CHAIR.", and it won't look anything like Right on the web client.

I don't see the advantages of this, in comparison to the disadvantages. I guess it's just a bad idea. I still think it should be ported to PDA and PSP, though :cool:

Tyhm 05-12-2006 02:02 AM

And cellphone and toaster.

irule13 05-12-2006 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
And cellphone and toaster.

that would be awesome :D

Zero Hour 05-12-2006 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
And cellphone and toaster.

Then I wouldn't mind waiting for my bread to toast.

excaliber7388 05-12-2006 04:03 AM

Or make the web client free, a kind of game to draw in paying users ;)

Fogles 05-12-2006 05:04 AM

If graal had a java client, i could play on modded xbox.

I got a web browser app on it

Skyld 05-12-2006 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogles
If graal had a java client, i could play on modded xbox.

I got a web browser app on it

You could just mod your xbox some more and make it run linux. Then you can play more feature-rich Graal.

Draenin 05-12-2006 05:51 PM

Yeah, but would you be able to bind keys and stuff?

CidNight1142 05-12-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
You could just mod your xbox some more and make it run linux. Then you can play more feature-rich Graal.

Unfortunately, he could not develop.

Fogles 05-12-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Yeah, but would you be able to bind keys and stuff?


Yeah, You could.

Zero Hour 05-12-2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogles
Yeah, You could.

I think he means the java client o:

VulcanP2P 05-12-2006 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
I think he means the java client o:

In linksbox or whatever it's called you can bind certain keys to certain buttons on the XBOX if I remember correctly.

Rick 05-13-2006 05:19 AM

Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Zero Hour 05-13-2006 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick
Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Yea, that's always been everyone's consideration :whatever:

excaliber7388 05-13-2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
Did anyone ever consider that if you know, you can't download and install Graal, maybe you shouldn't be?

Bah, thats why they make proxies :p
plus, like I said, it could be a way for noobs to sample graal before downloading or buying

Fogles 05-15-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VulcanP2P
In linksbox or whatever it's called you can bind certain keys to certain buttons on the XBOX if I remember correctly.


Correct.

Faital_Ryu 05-16-2006 12:35 AM

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it could be a way for noobs to sample graal before downloading or buying
I concur! What if people trying out Graal don't like it, and wasted space on their computer?

napo_p2p 05-18-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Faital_Ryu
I concur! What if people trying out Graal don't like it, and wasted space on their computer?

There's something called uninstall. It's possible to use too!

The web version would be very much dumbed down. And (as other people have stated), if implemented, would only work on specialized servers.

Might as well go here.

Tyhm 05-18-2006 02:50 PM

But it'd be sweet if that hooked up to an actual server, ya know?

Faital_Ryu 05-18-2006 11:50 PM

It's callled Graal Classic, Tyhm. I made this topic because it'd be really nice to play Graal on the broad, and more often. My h ome computer's relatively limited, so I don't get to play Graal as long as I want to most of the time, and at other places I go to play the computer, downloading is prohibited.

Zero Hour 05-18-2006 11:57 PM

I can only see this as handy for students on school computers or workers, and ofcourse people with PDAs and such :P

Faital_Ryu 05-20-2006 08:56 PM

Well, so you know, if a Graal web client ever was made, I definitely wouldn't be playing at school.


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