Laming.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

That would also make all P2P's lame seeing as some trials can't afford it, also making all guns besides the infinite ammo weapons seeing as P2P's have the extra ammo, right?

to be honest all p2ps are lame...

we got more guns...more health...so if your agreeing and not being sarcastic, i agree

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

to be honest all p2ps are lame...

we got more guns...more health...so if your agreeing and not being sarcastic, i agree

taht is cuz we payed

Get a hold over yourself, you are not a caped hero defending people who don't pay for a game.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

taht is cuz we payed

Get a hold over yourself, you are not a caped hero defending people who don't pay for a game.

your missing my point -_-, 1st of all if you knew me, dont blame ya for not, youd know i hate tags like hero and legend

im defending them cause i was a trial in the whole changing process, i know what its like

i know we payed -_- sure that should entitles us to some perks but taking MORE away from trials? we didnt pay for that

most trials are weird i know that...but really, i only say those things for the trials because of the changes i underwent with new...changes lol (way back then)

the only big thing i care about is the tags, give me tags and ill smile, and im sure every other guild leader will 2

[Huwajux]

*Rolls eyes then sighs*

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by icemaster

i know we payed -_- sure that should entitles us to some perks but taking MORE away from trials? we didnt pay for that

No, we paid for an advantage, Stefan didn't think we had enough of an advantage so we got a bigger one by taking away from the trials. He took away hoping that the larger disadvantage would increase the number of trials buying membership, which it has in my opinion. It's also increased the amount of people switching to zone.

[someonesomewhere]

Actually, I'd be willing to be most of you payed just to whine on a publicly accessed forum.
I payed just so I could talk to Darky. Damned timezones.

Touya. Trials aren't going to get tags back, they aren't underprivelaged, and they aren't supposed to have anything more than what they've already got.
I'd like to see them get tags back as much as the next guy, but what's the point? Graal has to make money somehow, and it won't get that money by giving more stuff away.

"Istud discupulus est non dignum liberae."
Haha owned :]

[anubis_wing]

Originally Posted by someonesomewhere

"Istud discupulus est non dignum liberae."
Haha owned :]

You speaky de english?

[someonesomewhere]

In very rough Latin, that means:
"That trial of yours is not worthy of free things."
xD

Anyway, that's my opinion.

[Zulu15]

Trials don't even have the right to exist, we're actualy lucky Stefan let's people have an unlimited trial period.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by someonesomewhere

Actually, I'd be willing to be most of you payed just to whine on a publicly accessed forum.
I payed just so I could talk to Darky. Damned timezones.

Touya. Trials aren't going to get tags back, they aren't underprivelaged, and they aren't supposed to have anything more than what they've already got.
I'd like to see them get tags back as much as the next guy, but what's the point? Graal has to make money somehow, and it won't get that money by giving more stuff away.

"Istud discupulus est non dignum liberae."
Haha owned :]

but stefan has to realise, tags dont really effect trials, they effect more toward vips

like how can i run a guild when most of the talent i like is trials? WE have the time limit, WE shouldnt be wasting time finding p2ps, trials need their tags

stefan...you HAVE to see that and ALL of you ADMINS HAVE TO AS WELL

someone suggested a trial tag limit, like 1 per guild, a limit seems fine =/ they cant join all guilds but can join a few, in this case 1

im just saying we need it, not the trials

[HitmanJ2XX]

let me check but last time i saw, trials can be in a guild BUT they cant wear tags, increases member count yet in a way weakens the guild

[Crono]

Trials should be able to have everything for 2 weeks (irl time) and then go to the way they are today.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Trials should be able to have everything for 2 weeks (irl time) and then go to the way they are today.

I feel 2 weeks would be too long and trials would just continue to create more and more trials for the sole purpose of that 2 week membership. The way I see it, you should be able to ban trial IP adresses from that 2 week membership after they have their X amount of days to see what it's like to be P2P.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I feel 2 weeks would be too long and trials would just continue to create more and more trials for the sole purpose of that 2 week membership.

Bah good point.

The way I see it, you should be able to ban trial IP adresses from that 2 week membership after they have their X amount of days to see what it's like to be P2P.

What about their siblings who have p2p ?

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Gerami

What about their siblings who have p2p ?

Too bad for them.

edit: How about a filter that only allows one account to get through?

[icemaster]

like i said, give trials the ability to shoot the guns in the dropship, the feeling of a gun is what appeals mainly to fighters, not the damage, and anyone who tells you different doesnt follow themselves then

i use appirces cause i like the way they feel, not because they do 40 max

let trials shoot the bluerifle, redrifle, stormrifle, etc in dropship...you dont have to give them the stuff especially since stormrifle is a 4k exp needed thing

but im still big on tags, why hasnt stefan talked back about this? o_O

ive seen it been discussed over like 50 times and havent heard anything from an admin on it

vips are affected =[

edit: i correct myself, i dont just use appirces, i use a lot of weapons in the game cause i love the different feelings, etc...

[MisterMastermind]

First off, stop turning this into a discussion about trials, the admins haven't responded to it because they don't care about people who have nothing to do with their profit or making graal a better game. Back on topic, laming is annoying when you're being lamed, their should be some kind of protection against laming other than the 2 seconds, I was thinking auto turrets mounted near the HQ so they can be defended easier, but I'm pretty sure making an NPC script for that would be hell.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

let trials shoot the bluerifle, redrifle, stormrifle, etc

No.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

No.

care to elaborate?

im not saying give em the guns in the field, just let em feel em in dropship

wat could that hurt?

plus like i said i dont care about it anyway, just the tags, which affects vips

the admins really should think about that =/

[someonesomewhere]

Actually, No is good enough for a response.

So.

No.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by icemaster

im not saying give em the guns in the field, just let em feel em in dropship

wat could that hurt?

plus like i said i dont care about it anyway, just the tags, which affects vips

the admins really should think about that =/

No.
The problem I see with giving trials tags, some VIP could just make 100 trials, have them each wear his tag once a week and he would be the only member in the top rated guild.

[Zulu15]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I feel 2 weeks would be too long and trials would just continue to create more and more trials for the sole purpose of that 2 week membership. The way I see it, you should be able to ban trial IP adresses from that 2 week membership after they have their X amount of days to see what it's like to be P2P.

I like the idea, the IP ban sounds good because you can filter it so only P2P's can log in from that computer once the week or so is over.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Zulu15

I like the idea, the IP ban sounds good because you can filter it so only P2P's can log in from that computer once the week or so is over.

The only problem with that is, sometimes my ip adress will change at random points in time or about once a month by 1 or 2 numbers. If theirs works this way then we have a problem.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

No.
The problem I see with giving trials tags, some VIP could just make 100 trials, have them each wear his tag once a week and he would be the only member in the top rated guild.

you honestly think...VIPs would go through that trouble? no...no way man, that is way too much work, i know old guild leaders that wouldnt even take the time doing a small portion of that

i mean, alone with the way graals time takes, it takes at least 2 days to even MAKE and ACTIVATE a new account, trust me, i know

and trust me...maybe 1 or 2 accounts would happen like this now that you brought it up lol, but it never happened before when they did have tags =/

all im saying is guilds were a lot...happier back then =/

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by icemaster

you honestly think...VIPs would go through that trouble? no...no way man, that is way too much work, i know old guild leaders that wouldnt even take the time doing a small portion of that

i mean, alone with the way graals time takes, it takes at least 2 days to even MAKE and ACTIVATE a new account, trust me, i know

and trust me...maybe 1 or 2 accounts would happen like this now that you brought it up lol, but it never happened before when they did have tags =/

all im saying is guilds were a lot...happier back then =/

Yes I do think they would, if all the nicknames are set to the same thing they could just click to change accounts then log back in. It takes alot less than 2 days to create and activate an account, I could make one or two in about 5 minutes. That's because people back then cared about the fairness of the game, and no, I don't think it would be too much trouble, If you make 25+ accounts it'd take about 2 days to activate guild and get all on tag would be maybe an hour. An hour every two days to be in the top rated guild is pretty nice.

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Yes I do think they would, if all the nicknames are set to the same thing they could just click to change accounts then log back in. It takes alot less than 2 days to create and activate an account, I could make one or two in about 5 minutes. That's because people back then cared about the fairness of the game, and no, I don't think it would be too much trouble, If you make 25+ accounts it'd take about 2 days to activate guild and get all on tag would be maybe an hour. An hour every two days to be in the top rated guild is pretty nice.

1. show me 1, 1! graal player that hardcore that would do that =/

2. ive made graal accounts...many actually...in secret...it takes a few seconds to do the form, a few mins sometimes to create a new email, and it takes over a day for a stupid activation thing to be sent to that email, very time consuming =/

3. then change the thing so for wearin tags to actually count, they have to wear the tag atleast a total of 2 hours a day, for it to actually do anything to the guild rating

no one would waste ALL that time, no one is that hardcore a graal player, and that doesnt go against your ip change from time to time

keep in mind, my style of thoughts include randomly throwing out thoughts, i dont think things through, if i did, no one would be able to get an idea off another idea, same thing with thoughts

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by icemaster

1. show me 1, 1! graal player that hardcore that would do that =/

2. ive made graal accounts...many actually...in secret...it takes a few seconds to do the form, a few mins sometimes to create a new email, and it takes over a day for a stupid activation thing to be sent to that email, very time consuming =/

3. then change the thing so for wearin tags to actually count, they have to wear the tag atleast a total of 2 hours a day, for it to actually do anything to the guild rating

no one would waste ALL that time, no one is that hardcore a graal player, and that doesnt go against your ip change from time to time

keep in mind, my style of thoughts include randomly throwing out thoughts, i dont think things through, if i did, no one would be able to get an idea off another idea, same thing with thoughts

1. Me.
2. xD then your email sucks, dodgeit emails work here and you dont have to sign up for them.
3. My guess is they'd be AFK on them.
4. I like the fact trials don't have tags because their are a few that I wouldn't let in any decent guild.

[jkool666]

Is it so hard to make it so that trials can only wear guild tags while inside the Guild Wars planet? Wow...

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Is it so hard to make it so that trials can only wear guild tags while inside the Guild Wars planet? Wow...

geh thatd be pointless then, in some aspects it would

look, all im saying is there were NEVER problems that typhoon is bringing up...NEVER problems when trials had tags, everything was still even, it was FINE, then out of nowhere stefan removed their tags -_-

it WAS fine, itll BE FINE unless you keep giving ideas -_-

do the damn ip address thing if needed, trials not having tags kills vips, maybe not you typh, but many other vips

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by icemaster

geh thatd be pointless then, in some aspects blah blah blah blah. Blah blah...blah!

All I am getting at this moment. Stop complaining about it, Mr.TrialSaverer.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

All I am getting at this moment. Stop complaining about it, Mr.TrialSaverer.

Agreed. If he wishes to help trials so much why isn't he STILL a trial? Kill the same bird twice with the same stone. If he's a trial he can be a trial crusader being a trial, right now it's like a republican representing a bunch of democrats. And the second reason, he'd be off of forums. No more complaining from him.

[someonesomewhere]

Er, I stopped messing with learning how to code a while back, but can't something be done with

NPC Code:

---

if (playerchats) {

   if(strequals(#c,blah)) {

}

}

---

I dunno, maybe you can make it like Maloria's system?

[Sulukra]

Originally Posted by someonesomewhere

Er, I stopped messing with learning how to code a while back, but can't something be done with

NPC Code:

---

if (playerchats) {

   if(strequals(#c,blah)) {

}

}

---

I dunno, maybe you can make it like Maloria's system?

If you're saying that it could be done that way with a tag, it'd be required to have a script that finds the level name and, if it starts with the required level name, it allows them to put their tags on only in that dropship/field?

If thats what you're saying, it really isn't that hard.

[someonesomewhere]

If you can do that, fine. But #c is for chat, so if you make a script that checks for guild membership and at the same time allows the tag if that flag comes up as true, then it should work x-x

[icemaster]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Agreed. If he wishes to help trials so much why isn't he STILL a trial? Kill the same bird twice with the same stone. If he's a trial he can be a trial crusader being a trial, right now it's like a republican representing a bunch of democrats. And the second reason, he'd be off of forums. No more complaining from him.

im not a tiral anymore cause of era, not zone

era doesnt even have guilds so....you cant talk like that to me =/

and dark, i could care less, you didnt even give your side =/

trials need tags back, plain and simple, it was RETARDED to remove em, and i say retarded cause it mainly effects vips =/ im not trying to insult anyone, but damn i always thought that was stupid

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by icemaster

im not a tiral anymore cause of era, not zone

era doesnt even have guilds so....you cant talk like that to me =/

and dark, i could care less, you didnt even give your side =/

trials need tags back, plain and simple, it was RETARDED to remove em, and i say retarded cause it mainly effects vips =/ im not trying to insult anyone, but damn i always thought that was stupid

I suggested a guild membership type set-up that would cost $10 for a year maybe? Add 1 month gold and it'd work spendidly, but that's up to him, not us.

[Raeiphon]

Originally Posted by icemaster

1. show me 1, 1! graal player that hardcore that would do that =/

2. ive made graal accounts...many actually...in secret...it takes a few seconds to do the form, a few mins sometimes to create a new email, and it takes over a day for a stupid activation thing to be sent to that email, very time consuming =/

3. then change the thing so for wearin tags to actually count, they have to wear the tag atleast a total of 2 hours a day, for it to actually do anything to the guild rating

no one would waste ALL that time, no one is that hardcore a graal player, and that doesnt go against your ip change from time to time

keep in mind, my style of thoughts include randomly throwing out thoughts, i dont think things through, if i did, no one would be able to get an idea off another idea, same thing with thoughts

1. I would aswell.

2. www.dodgeit.com

3. No.

Keep in mind, my style of THINKING involves randomly putting others pathetic excuses for "ideas" down then urinating on them and devouring them. Heed the troll.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Raeiphon

1. I would aswell.

2. www.dodgeit.com

3. No.

Keep in mind, my style of THINKING involves randomly putting others pathetic excuses for "ideas" down then urinating on them and devouring them. Heed the troll.

See. More of an idea digesting ogre with the runs...