Shawn64

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by GoZelda

No, it means you don't believe in a god, look it up:


Hindus believe in gods, but not in an afterlife. You don't have to believe in gods to believe in an afterlife.

Umm, isn't an afterlife based off of religion? (Heaven/Hell/ETC)

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Umm, isn't an afterlife based off of religion? (Heaven/Hell/ETC)

Yes, but religion doesn't include gods by definition.

Satanism is a "religion". Satan's not a god.

[D4rKv310c1ty]

Originally Posted by Shaun

There's a difference between expressing your opinion and harassment.

Starting/posting-in a general suicide thread on the Non-Graal Related board would be constructive, as it would be a place for everybody who wants to argue their opinion a place to.

Expressing your opinion in a thread such as this that you know you will offend people is different. All you will achieve in addition by expressing that particular opinion in this thread in the manner you do will be offending others.

You can express your opinion; however, it is your choice if you want to offend people or not. You chose to offend people. That's harassment.

Yeah, you have an opinion (even if expressing it is a priveledge, not a right), but to make the decision to offend people when you could perfectly express it without is wrong. It is a clear violation of GraalOnline's code of conduct. All you accomplish in addition is harassment, argument, and stirring hatred.

If you have a generalized opinion that you want to express, please, go make a thread for it. Those who want to argue it can go there. That will keep the peace and make EVERYBODY happy, except those who want to start fights, and well, satisfying those who want to start fights is not exactly a top-priority.

An oppinion however may not be constructed to offend someone, so you're a little wrong there but im making an oppinion here. It's not necessarily offending you is it?

An oppinion is usually someones idea of what they think of the topic and an idea for other people to go on to believe.

Harrassment is constantly abusing a certain thing, this is a definition
tr.v. ha·rassed, ha·rass·ing, ha·rass·es

1. To irritate or torment persistently.
2. To wear out; exhaust.
3. To impede and exhaust (an enemy) by repeated attacks or raids.

Nothing to do with oppinions, but why dont you debate this in the non-related section hmm?

I'm not necessarily making an oppinion, i'm assuming why Shawn died and WAS hoping could back me up with some information but I obviously got the opposite.

Its hard to offend someone with your oppinion, the person may not like it but its your oppinion no one can change that if thats what you believe they cant change what you believe either.

I know this is a sensitive topic and yes I agree with someones other post.

If we're going to debate over ethnic stuff and religions, bring it on im up for it in the non related. But this was started in the concern of Shawn Noel (bless his soul) who has passed away if you havent noticed..

[D4rKv310c1ty]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Very true. And I expressed my opinion.

This is your opinion as to what constructive would be. Shaun, the thread was about someone who committed suicide, so suicide related talks seem pretty approaite to me.

I'm not going to walk on eggshells around everyone just to make sure I don't offend anyone. Sorry, not happening. You can continue living your politically correct life, but I'll live for me, thanks.

I didn't choose to offend anyone. I gave my opinion. I didn't purposely do it for the purpose of offending someone. If that's what happened, then that's what happened.


Okay Shaun, then why didn't you make a different thread for this post? What does this post have to do with his suicide? Absolutely nothing. Don't be a hypocrite.

And I think Mykel was very correct in saying all this.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by GoZelda

Yes, but religion doesn't include gods by definition.

Satanism is a "religion". Satan's not a god.

I've never done research about being an atheist, so I'm just going off what I've heard and what I'm assuming, but I thought that atheists just thought that existance ended.

[Faygolette]

Nobody cares.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Faygolette

Nobody cares.

This is your 7th post in this thread.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Mykel

I've never done research about being an atheist, so I'm just going off what I've heard and what I'm assuming, but I thought that atheists just thought that existance ended.

So you presented something you assumed as a fact?

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by GoZelda

So you presented something you assumed as a fact?

Let's review:

Originally Posted by Mykel

Umm, isn't an afterlife based off of religion? (Heaven/Hell/ETC)

Notice the question mark? That is a sign that a question is being asked.

The other thing I said was that the belief is that you become non-existant, which is true.

[Lord Sephiroth]

I'm sorry guys but is this really the place to discuss this? I mean, I know opinions are wanted but this isn't the place to argue. This thread is to pay respects and mourn for Shawn, not yell at each other about religion. Take it to Forum PM or start a thread somewhere else or go search for a thread where this is relivant.
Every post you make arguing is disrespecting Shawn, and I know I and many others wouldn't appreciate that.

[Damix2]

He deserves no respect, he hurt other because he couldn't deal with himself. He can rot in hell.

[Skrobo2]

Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth

I'm sorry guys but is this really the place to discuss this? I mean, I know opinions are wanted but this isn't the place to argue. This thread is to pay respects and mourn for Shawn, not yell at each other about religion. Take it to Forum PM or start a thread somewhere else or go search for a thread where this is relivant.
Every post you make arguing is disrespecting Shawn, and I know I and many others wouldn't appreciate that.

My point exactly.

Originally Posted by Damix2

He deserves no respect, he hurt other because he couldn't deal with himself. He can rot in hell.

As can you.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Skrobo2

My point exactly.



As can you.

I already have my ticket to hell. He just boarded the plane.

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by Damix2

I already have my ticket to hell. He just boarded the plane.

Aww snaps! I missed the flight.

Guess I won't make it to the poker game .

[icemaster]

eh extremely late in the posting...

recently heard about shawn

then, even more recently, i heard the news from some1 on my myspace...

sorry i didnt read all the posts here....only the 1st 1.....just giving my regards and respects to him....

i dont like hearin of suicide...i hate wen ppl even think of it...let alone attempt it....and wen they do it...it just depresses me

i didnt know shawn...but givin my respects as i said......

=[

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Damix2

He deserves no respect, he hurt other because he couldn't deal with himself. He can rot in hell.

I agree. Why did the crybaby kill himself?

[D4rKv310c1ty]

This topic is getting very pointless, can someone please lock it? Its completely going around the fact that Shawn's dead.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty

This topic is getting very pointless, can someone please lock it? Its completely going around the fact that Shawn's dead.

Not really pointless, just inappropriate, and disrespectful to discuss within this thread.

Rest in peace Shawn, as well as this thread.....