Shawn64

[osrs]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

there is NO good reason for suicide

I didn't say that there is a reason for suicide. But nobody knows what he was feeling, and nobody will never know. I just think that idiot comments wouldn't be good here.

[Mykel]

Wow, talk about a shock. I hopped on my brother's computer over the weekend and got on the forums for about 5 minutes and saw the thread Shawn64 and assumed that it was a birthday thread, so I never clicked on it. Talk about sad.

But yeah, there is no real good reason. I personally think that things like blogs and new trends increase suicides becuase people think they they have a worse life then they actually do. Now I have no way to prove that this applies to Shawn, but I'm just making a point.

[refinoheat2]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

One thing I always said about death, is that you should forget the death part. Celebrate the person's life, think of the good times. I'd hate for there to be people crying or arguing at my funeral.

I agree, although I as well as some of you might not like the way he died or his choice in doing so, why not just stick to the good stuff he did while he was here.

[Faygolette]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

One thing I always said about death, is that you should forget the death part. Celebrate the person's life, think of the good times. I'd hate for there to be people crying or arguing at my funeral.

I tried thinking of the good times. Then I got depressed because I realized there wouldn't BE anymore good times.

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by osrs

I didn't say that there is a reason for suicide. But nobody knows what he was feeling, and nobody will never know. I just think that idiot comments wouldn't be good here.

how is that an idiot comment that he made? Also who are you to tell us what our beliefs are? I havent posted in this thread yet because I didnt really know Shawn, but I did have respect for his talents.

I recall in this thread i think Kuji that Shawn was an Athiest, so if this is true why do you care if someone else thinks he will go to hell? He obviously didnt believe in it.

For everyone who does including myself, we have our own beliefs and it is neither stupid nor *****ic to have them.

[Huwajux]

Shawn was obviously in a very difficult stage of trauma. He couldn't cope with his life, he saw the pain as so unbearable that he had to resort to suicide. At the age of which he was, little problems can build up and you feel that your life couldn't get any worse. They eat away at you... One just has to regain self-control and get through with it. Poor Shawn obviously had it much worse, thus he did what he felt was the only escape.

[Yen]

I think it's about time we all drop the subject and put it behind us? :O

[Skrobo2]

I agree with Yen. This is a thread to inform people of the death of a friend and for you to show your respects. Not a place for you to argue or discuss your opinions on religion or why he did it. You should just leave your respects and condolences and leave it at that.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Skrobo2

I agree with Yen. This is a thread to inform people of the death of a friend and for you to show your respects. Not a place for you to argue or discuss your opinions on religion or why he did it. You should just leave your respects and condolences and leave it at that.

Amen!

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Skrobo2

I agree with Yen. This is a thread to inform people of the death of a friend and for you to show your respects. Not a place for you to argue or discuss your opinions on religion or why he did it. You should just leave your respects and condolences and leave it at that.

NO!

People are allowed to have their own opinion. Sometimes people say negative things. Get over it. As long as they aren't bashing him for useless reasons, then there is no reason they can't express their opinion. That's in, plain and simple.

People can think what they think, and post what they think, as long as it doesn't cross the line. Where is the line? That is for the mods to decide. But if we are going to start drawing the line at negative opinions of things, then we'll lose a lot of memebers.

[Samurai_X2689]

Originally Posted by Frame

And replace it on the hosted tab as he wanted.

he didnt want it on the hosted tab, it got put there, and then he asked to take it off
he told me like 3 times that he wanted it either on the classic tab, or on no tab at all


and mykel, we know people are allowed to have their own opinion on stuff...its just that this thread isnt the right place to argue

[Skrobo2]

Originally Posted by Mykel

NO!

People are allowed to have their own opinion. Sometimes people say negative things. Get over it. As long as they aren't bashing him for useless reasons, then there is no reason they can't express their opinion. That's in, plain and simple.

People can think what they think, and post what they think, as long as it doesn't cross the line. Where is the line? That is for the mods to decide. But if we are going to start drawing the line at negative opinions of things, then we'll lose a lot of memebers.

All I'm saying is this thread wasn't made for you to debate why he did it or what you think. This thread was made to inform and for people to show their respects. I'm saying to act more mature and have some respect and find another place to debate your opinions and beliefs. If you want to have a discussion on religion and whether suicide is the worst sin ever then you should have the respect to do it somewhere else. I never said you had to stop posting about it, I said you should. You are entitled to your opinion and you can voice it where you please. I'm just saying if you were more respectful, you would have the courtesy to do it in another thread.

[Moondeath_2]

Originally Posted by Skrobo2

All I'm saying is this thread wasn't made for you to debate why he did it or what you think. This thread was made to inform and for people to show their respects. I'm saying to act more mature and have some respect and find another place to debate your opinions and beliefs. If you want to have a discussion on religion and whether suicide is the worst sin ever then you should have the respect to do it somewhere else. I never said you had to stop posting about it, I said you should. You are entitled to your opinion and you can voice it where you please. I'm just saying if you were more respectful, you would have the courtesy to do it in another thread.

True, I'm tired of users bashing on Shawn and also saying I don't know him or anything and then those who on un walk into his memorial level and disrespect the fact that he has passed away it bothers me badly, if you don't care about him keep your mouth shut if you do get your feelings out.

[D4rKv310c1ty]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

It's more like a label. Anyway, the point is, he caused more pain than he could have been suffereing from. And lonely? Look at all the people who now miss him, somehow, I don't think he was lonely, he had an idea in his head that continually resurfaced. It is a bit cowardly, however, what's done is done, however, now, all we can hope for is for his family and friends to get through this rough time, and for his soul to eventualy find rest. Although hell can be the very oppocite. (btw, don't make this a religious thread, I am expressing my beliefs, you wouldn't be mad that his grave will most likely be at a church, or that a preist will be helping the family out, so don't consider this the beggining of an argument. Although I find that religion can discourage suicide very easily)

Interesting comment, to be honest from the information I gathered Shawn Noel wanted to take his life away because of lonelyness. That seems to be the most reasonable explanation i've heard.

We live in a multi cultural society where friends are a survival tool at school not to get bullied. We all know that the 'loner kid' in the class always gets picked on because he's different and has no friends to the other typical kids. And now Shawns probably become a statistic of those kids.

Of course I dont know for a fact the reason for his death and I hardly knew him but Im explaining the the real possibility about thow that is probably true.

To be honest, we all have rough patches in our teen years, he musta had it bad if he had the guts to take his life away, and c'mon its hard to take your life away it takes GUTS. He must have had a good reason for taking his life away not just some petty one like I dont know, he forgot to eat his breakfast in the morning.

Anyway, I never knew the kid but maybe it'd explain a small amount of stuff, just saying it makes sense he probably killed himself because he was lonered.

makes sense no?

[D4rKv310c1ty]

Originally Posted by Skrobo2

All I'm saying is this thread wasn't made for you to debate why he did it or what you think. This thread was made to inform and for people to show their respects. I'm saying to act more mature and have some respect and find another place to debate your opinions and beliefs. If you want to have a discussion on religion and whether suicide is the worst sin ever then you should have the respect to do it somewhere else. I never said you had to stop posting about it, I said you should. You are entitled to your opinion and you can voice it where you please. I'm just saying if you were more respectful, you would have the courtesy to do it in another thread.

And i'm also very much in agreeing to this post.
We have nothing to debate over, whats done is done. Think of the cool times and move on, i'm sure half of you that knew him only knew him through graal and several other ways of communicating. As much as I look up to all the great developers in the world you cant think too much of him because you only knew him over text.

That's the harsh reality of it (for most of you that knew him)

so please dont bite my head off. From what I know he was very respectable for his work, lets keep it there and not make things too personal.